Okay, looking over Olimex, it's saying that the processors they offer run at 150 MHz? That's kind of unfeasible for a project like this. Unless I'm misreading, and they have a better version available. I'm willing to learn CAD systems, but it'd have to be over time and fairly slow, as I have some other obligations. There are surely other people more suited to the job. I included a .blend file not as a schematic, but as a basic design of what the device would look like, in my mind, to be something different that would compete in the market as something that sets itself apart.
Ha, I just read over olimex more, and now I understand where you're coming from. If we could use something like This<https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware>, it definitely would be perfect. Indeed, that exactly fits into that checklist I made, right in the middle of the "realistic" requirements I placed. It's not a super speed device, by any means, but it certainly could be used as a fantastically hackable device. Sorry if I'm not as helpful as others, I've been on this list for a long time, and I've never really done a whole lot, but I'm a huge fan of the cause, and would love to help. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Mark Tuson <[email protected]> wrote: > Well for my own part, I want the same thing I wanted in the first place: > something I can put Debian on, a full GNU toolchain, and do coding on. A > touchscreen and TWM or FVWM would be nice so I don't have to use multiple > terminal logins too. > On 12 Feb 2014 01:14, "Ron K. Jeffries" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The Ben Nanonote was (and is) a very cool device. For several reasons >> less than 1,500 were sold over the entire life of the device. >> The world has changed a lot since the Nanonote was launched. >> Instead of looking at how to tweak that design, a more productive >> approach might be to understand what this NICHE market wants that can not >> be purchased elsewhere. And how much will these enthusiastic, dedicated >> (almost fanatical..) people pay? >> >> We live in a world drowning in very nice small computing devices with >> great screens and great specs. These mainly run Linux with Andorid on top. >> They do not meet the desire many have for hardware that is open in >> specification and design, and by and large the software is more closed than >> open. >> >> Note that the Neo900 project is very interesting. However it want to be a >> mobile phone, a HUGE challenge that is outside the scope of any attempt to >> build son of Ben [Nanonote] (or SOB for short) LOL >> >> The first question before investing time to discuss how one might do a >> next device is to identify: >> >> -- why people want an open device. >> >> -- what are the main use cases >> >> -- what are a FEW defining features: >> >> (strawman): >> runs linux (no closed BLOBS required for basic use cases) >> fits in a front pocket, >> clamshell design (?) >> nice physical keyboard, >> has wireless internet connectivity (can use in internet cafe) >> 8 hour battery life, >> color display (resolution TBD) >> 1 x USB on the go >> 1 x microSD system >> 1 x microSD user filesystem >> BT 4.0 (BTLE) for several reasons including anelok and larger keyboards >> etc >> >> -- what RETAIL selling price is required to sell in volume? (needs to >> support distribution) >> >> I have some ideas I'll share if a discussion gets going. >> >> Ron K Jeffries >> I am not an engineer. But I do understand product management and teh >> business side. >> my on-line calling card (if you care) is ronkjeffries.pen.io >> >> >> >> --- >> Ron K. Jeffries >> 805-567-4670 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Mark Tuson <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I was thinking about this a little - but I don't think my thoughts >>> could be done open-source: I was just thinking of a pocket-size successor, >>> initial thought being a 640*480 resistive touchscreen and one of those Atom >>> SoCs. But the SoC is non-free, and way too expensive. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/02/2014 21:58, James "Xakh" Lynch wrote: >>> >>> So. What, realistically, needs to happen to breathe a little gasp of air >>> into this project? Not necessarily getting an nn factory running next week, >>> but to get a design on the table? >>> On Feb 11, 2014 4:26 PM, "Ron K. Jeffries" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Y do you make that mistake? >>>> sorry, but I could not resist making a teeny, tiny, gnat-sized pun. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Qi Hardware Discussion List >>>> Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >>>> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qi Hardware Discussion List >>> Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >>> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qi Hardware Discussion List >>> Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >>> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qi Hardware Discussion List >> Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >> > > _______________________________________________ > Qi Hardware Discussion List > Mail to list (members only): [email protected] > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: > http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >
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