On 30/09/2019 12:10, Florian Snow wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In the interest of transparency, I as one of Daniel's successors in
> whatever this here is [0], would like to point everyone, but especially,
> the new suscribers here to the full story so that everyone can make up
"Full story" is misleading. There are at least two sides to every
story, especially in a political situation like this.
Most people are fed up with hearing arguments over who to believe.
> their own mind and not just about selective and misleading statements
> from Daniel.
>
> You can find information about how Daniel got many of the addresses he
> used to subscribe people here on our own mailing list [1]. And if you
> want to find out more about the back story, you can also find it there
> [2]. Since both of those are long emails, here two tl;dr versions:
>
> Getting subscriber data:
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> In brief, your email addresses were used by a third party to create
> another mailing list, unaffiliated with and without the consent and
> prior knowledge of the FSFE, on the web infrastructure of another
> company. Shortly afterwards, the third party then ran automation scripts
> to unsubscribe all members of the FSFE's list, which resulted in you
> receiving emails requesting your confirmation to unsubscribe from the
> FSFE's lists. The FSFE has informed the relevant Federal authorities in
> Germany of this breach, and we are in contact with legal counsel to
> explore our options to ensure that our communities are protected.
Well, back in 1939 the Federal authorities of German were really
interested in eliminating elected representatives and declared there
could only be one party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany#Nazi_seizure_of_power
Your strong-man tactics and manifestly slanderous implication of
wrongdoing appears to be a gross example of personal bullying.
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>
> So if you are happy here, feel free to stay, but please know that this
> is not an official FSFE mailing list. If you were under the impression
Nobody claims it is an official FSFE mailing list
It is officially independent of FSFE now, that is a good thing.
> that it is and what to leave, you can use this link:
> https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/options/discussion
> If you don't want to take those steps, you could also flag these mails
> as spam and eventually, they will stop coming.
>
>
> Back story:
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> Daniel has repeatedly threatened blackmail, performed it, abused our
> systems, constantly derailed discussions, never offered to take on any
> of the work he suggested, nor did he ever work actively on any steps in
> that direction, yet he accused us of inaction repeatedly and called
> everyone who pointed this out a bully.
I don't see any evidence of that. What I did see is that FSFE were
discussing ways to remove the elections within two weeks of the
community electing me in 2017.
If modifying the constitution to remove elections is an example of doing
something, then I'd rather be the person who does nothing or resists.
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>
> By the way, Daniel, I would like to invite a few more people here.
That sounds incredibly friendly
> Please provide me with admin access because I am one of your
> successors. [0]
Simply put their email addresses in the subscribe form and they will
receive confirmation emails
We're all still waiting for the three people elected as a Fellowship
council to tell us how you will constitute yourselves. Have you had a
first meeting yet?
Regards,
Daniel
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