Weird and very interesting.

Scott


On 9/18/05, Craig FALCONER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes - my massive delay at boot and associated thrash in the kswapd0 process
> was caused by having a floppy drive attached to the virtual machine.
> 
> I had to disable the floppy in the virtual bios (Press F2 at boot time) and
> to disconnect the floppy image before boot.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig FALCONER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:51 a.m.
> To: discussion@pfsense.com
> Subject: RE: [pfSense-discussion] Massive Boot delay during load
> 
> 
> Very interesting - I had a similar delay when booting 0.84 in a vmware
> machine.  I know for sure it had a floppy image attached.
> 
> Tomorrow I'll remove the fdd and see if that was the cause of the delay and
> kswapd thrash that I mentioned to Scott on the irc channel.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Roy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:42 a.m.
> To: discussion@pfsense.com
> Subject: RE: [pfSense-discussion] Massive Boot delay during load
> 
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Thanks for the heads up. Here is what I did below to get around that
> problem.
> 
> I went into the BIOS and disabled the Floppy controller but the simplest way
> was to tell the BIOS that no floppy was attached. This worked for me and
> booted straight up normally.
> 
> I did notice however that during the boot process, that even when told that
> no floppy is attached, it is still allocated in the IRQ to the controller.
> So to physically disable the floppy controller would be to take it from it
> IRQ.
> 
> I also tried it again with another known working floppy drive and again the
> delay. I was using a new cable on the floppy drive and when I attached it I
> thought that something looked odd. I again rebooted and the floppy activity
> light was constantly on. So I checked the cable and saw that the power side
> of the cable was on the wrong side.
> 
> This can easily be over looked as the locating tab on the cable was on the
> wrong side and just to plug it into where it matches was the fault. Remove
> the locating tab, reattach cable to correct locating position (power side of
> cable to power plug) and hey presto it now boots and is working as it should
> with the floppy drive enabled. During the boot procedure it gets to ad0 then
> acd0, it then sends a signal to the floppy drive and waits for the reply
> signal from the floppy drive unless it is disabled it waits patiently until
> it gets to timeout and leaves.
> 
> It appears that some cable manufacturers are making floppy drive cables
> incorrectly. This can be a trap for new players and those who don't follow
> their gut instincts and use what they know works. Also some older floppy
> drives have its cable connector inverted to that of new drives, for which
> the new cables are made.
> 
> 
> Kindest Regards,
> 
> Craig Roy
> Horizon IT Consultants
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> AUSTRALIAN RESELLER
>                  FOR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 1:30 AM
> To: discussion@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense-discussion] Massive Boot delay during load
> 
> Disable the floppy controller.  Its been reported on the FreeBSD lists.
> 
> Also, I'm working on a small bug where php is launching quite frequently
> which is driving up the CPU load.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On 9/14/05, Gary Buckmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I have also seen this behavior on several different machines with no
> > rhyme or reason to it.  I have seen this issue in 0.82.4 as well as
> > 0.84 (I
> don't
> > remember off-hand if I saw it happening in a version previous to
> > 0.82.4 or if so, what version it was).
> >
> > This issue does not appear to be specific to a particular hard drive
> > make/type/model nor to a particular brand of motherboard, but I would
> > suspect that this hang, whatever it is, is probably a FreeBSD issue
> > and
> not
> > specific to pfSense.
> >
> > -Gary
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Craig Roy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:17 AM
> > To: discussion@pfsense.com
> > Subject: [pfSense-discussion] Massive Boot delay during load
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your work and efforts in making pfSense a great product.
> >
> >
> >
> > After the release of the Update .84 I downloaded the complete update
> > file and proceeded to upload to my test machine, (which will be going
> > through
> its
> > paces until November when I finally get DSL).
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is what I have experienced after the update. After uploading the
> update
> > file, I rebooted the system and observed the boot process. I was
> > initially met by the normal bootup process until it got to:
> >
> >
> >
> > ad0: 38165MB <Seagate ST340016A 3.10> at ata0-master UDMA100
> >
> > acd0: CDRW <CD-W54E/7.1F7H> at ata1-master PIO4
> >
> > 10minute boot delay then displayed the following (copied from the
> > system
> log
> > but same message).
> >
> > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought that it had stalled during bootup and I rebooted.
> >
> >
> >
> > Again the delay halt, during this delay, no HDD or CDRW activity is
> observed
> > for nearly 10 minutes (to the second). I thought that I had managed to
> > corrupt the setup. I simply reinstalled the previous ISO .82.4 and
> > normal boot time experienced. I then again updated the firmware to .84
> > and rebooted, the same delay noticed and timed at 10minutes before
> > continuing
> to
> > the pf menu. I wondered if the update had a problem, so I downloaded
> > the
> ISO
> > .84 and reinstalled the complete setup from the new ISO.
> >
> >
> >
> > From booting the CD to get to the install procedure was again 10
> > minutes.
> I
> > have gone through the boot loader files, but I am unable to see
> > anything
> out
> > of the ordinary that would cause this delay.
> >
> > I changed the IDE Channels from CDRW to HDD and so on that I would
> normally
> > do during a troubleshooting procedure, right down to having No NIC's
> > installed and HDD only, same result.
> >
> >
> >
> > Will the old loader files be compatible with this version to test?
> >
> > I am not sure if it is looking for a device that is not actually
> > installed in my machine that may have been on the DEV machine, and
> > thought that it
> may
> > actually look for Flash Cards during this time and is consistently
> > waiting for a response until it times out before continuing.
> >
> > Have you got any ideas that I may try?
> >
> >
> >
> > WebGUI CPU Meter Usage is better but still @ 60% - 67% idle.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope that you don't mind me giving you some feedback. I am not
> > greatly concerned at this point in time as this is basically my own
> > machine. I am used to installing systems and testing is one of the
> > jobs that I do day to day.
> >
> >
> >
> > SYSTEM SPECS
> >
> > 2GHZ Intel P4
> >
> > 40GB HDD
> >
> > 512MB DDR
> >
> > 4xNETGEAR RLTK8169
> >
> >
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Craig Roy
> >
> > Horizon IT Consultants
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > AUSTRALIAN RESELLER
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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