On Thursday 08 December 2005 12:30, Alon Altman wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Ido Abramovich wrote:
> > And if I'm already out of "lurking mode", I have to
> > say that all the arguing and fighting around these
> > mails are getting tired, Alon and Shlomi's online
> > fight over the webpage, the fight over which mailing
> > list to use, Meta or Discussions (I mean, god, is that
> > really so important?! ), the fight over mailing list
> > or board, etc...
>
>    The fight over the webpage never was a "fight". It was a problem
> regarding a person having more technical permissions than actualy
> authority, and the abuse of these permissions. I would have never pushed
> this stupid
> disagreement outside the personal forum between myself and Shlomi, and I am
> very sorry that he chose to out it this way.

Well, there are two sides to every coin and I'm afraid Alon's POV is 
completely wrong. But I won't put my case here. I should not argue with a 
fool as people would not know (and have not known) the difference.

>
>    The meta list started in order to pervent useless fights over topics
> people have no idea about. The problem was people refused to use this list.
> If you do not like the discussions on the list, you are free to leave the
> list.
>
> > All of these fighting shows me how relevant "Hamakor"
> > is nowadays, and is part of my reasons (and not all,
> > there are other issues too) on deciding not to renew
> > my donation this year.
>
>    The mailing lists have nothing to do with the use of Hamakor funds,
> including your donation. The donated funds are mostly used for the W2L and
> School projects, both of which were quite successful, and need more funding
> in order to continue next year. I regret that you have decided not to renew
> your membership, as any donation helps us deal with the important issues
> for which Hamakor was founded.
>

I agree with Alon here. Hamakor has been essential to many FOSS activities in 
Israel, which often need a legal and financial back. Hamakor does much more 
than just argue in mailing lists, and it is essential that it will have as 
many members/friends as possible and also receive as much money as possible. 
Your membership helps both of these causes.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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