----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Coopersmith <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:25 am Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro To: [email protected] Cc: Rob McMahon <[email protected]>, Open Solaris <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> So, let's get positive here. Where do we get started to form a > >> Community Distro, based on the latest sources including IPS. Not a > cut > >> down version, or replacing the userland (no offence there, that's good > >> work too), just a take on Solaris Next based on the latest available > >> bits. We have Rich Lowe's work for starters, but I wouldn't know > how to > >> take that and form a repository. Can we talk about this and get > >> something started ? > > > > I have no love for that python disaster called IPS. > > > > I still use SVR4 packages that get released from Blastwave and those > work > > for the most part. To hell with that issue at the moment. > > Then your distro will be forked from the Oracle released sources and you'll Well of course. The idea behind a "community" distro is to get away from the problems Oracle has caused. I am not being fair. These problems were caused by Sun people also and then Oracle got it dumped on them. No wonder internal management is confused. I can see them running around asking "is it a product? do we sell it? do we sell support? what is a community?" and confusion in all directions. Regardless the idea of a community distro is one that anyone can work with and build on and add to. You CAN NOT do that as things stand today. > have created an extra hurdle for yourself to jump in recreating SVR4 package No. The Indiana team and the Sun folks and then Oracle people made a massive brick wall and broken glass to climb over and through. Don't place this mess on me or any community member. If this were a real open source project with real community collaboration we would not have this disaster. > prototypes since those are no longer present in the ON & X gates The what ? gates ? Whose gates ? You mean the ones controlled by Oracle ? Do we care anymore ? > be removed from more of the source gates as more consolidations transition. > > If others want to work on a distro that doesn't have that issue, they > should be free to do so. Look, dear Alan, I said and I say again .. to hell with the SVR4 issue. That is way way up the stack of issues. Start at the bottom. The closed sources and the i18n issues. Start there. Because right now there is NO way that anyone outside of Oracle can build OpenSolaris without internal people working on closed code bits. Now tell me where I am wrong in that statement. After five years this "open source" project is still strung up in *critical* closed bits. Dennis _______________________________________________ distribution-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/distribution-discuss
