On 14/07/2010 15:36, Dennis Clarke wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Coopersmith<[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:25 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro
To: [email protected]
Cc: Rob McMahon<[email protected]>, Open
Solaris<[email protected]>, [email protected]
Dennis Clarke wrote:
So, let's get positive here. Where do we get started to form a
Community Distro, based on the latest sources including IPS. ...
We have Rich Lowe's work for starters, but I wouldn't know how to
take that and form a repository.
I have no love for that python disaster called IPS.
I still use SVR4 packages that get released from Blastwave and those work
for the most part. To hell with that issue at the moment.
Then your distro will be forked from the Oracle released sources and you'll
Well of course.
The idea behind a "community" distro is to get away from the problems Oracle
has caused.
I was thinking of it more as a way to get around the *access* problems
Oracle (not Sun) has created, and track the development going on inside
Oracle. You don't like IPS, fair enough, but that's clearly going to be
Solaris's future, and maybe by the time Solaris Next becomes product,
and with our input, it can become a system you can live with. Without
it, you can't access the extra and contrib repositories, for instance.
Me, I was getting on with it okay until the repositories got frozen.
Regardless the idea of a community distro is one that anyone can work with and
build on and add to.
You CAN NOT do that as things stand today.
Why so. What are the problems in doing this ? What information don't
we have to build our own repository ? We can work with the source, and
provide feedback, bug reports, and code suggestions.
Whose gates ?
You mean the ones controlled by Oracle ?
Do we care anymore ?
I do. Let's face it, the vast majority of input to OpenSolaris comes
from Oracle, née Sun, engineers. We don't want to just take the code
frozen as is, create our own OS, and ignore any changes Oracle are making.
Start at the bottom. The closed sources and the i18n issues. Start there.
That's good too, let's support the emancipation project, but to me that
seems a separate problem.
Because right now there is NO way that anyone outside of Oracle can build
OpenSolaris without internal people working on closed code bits.
We still have access to the closed source bits (okay, they're frozen at
'134 for now, but should carry on working for a long while)..
After five years this "open source" project is still strung up in *critical*
closed bits.
Separate project. Yup, that needs done too.
Rob
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