On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 14:21, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you saying that you need to use setuptools (or at least the > feaures of setuptools) to develop setuptools?
Currently, yes. The testsuite is run with the testrunner of setuptools. You can run them separately too, I'm sure, but that's a pain. There is no test.py to run. Maybe you can use nose or something to run the tests, but then again you would need to port *nose* to Python 3... :-/ > That's crazy. To run the > setuptools tests, just run the test.py (or whatever) script. There isn't any. And to do that you need to convert it to Python 3 first, and we are back to the "run a porting script, then run a test command", which is what we want to avoid in the first place. distutils have code exactly to help this kind of situation, so I think we should depend on that. > setuptools ability to type python setup.py test, while convenient, > simply isn't available while you're developing setuptools. Sure it is. Maybe it *shouldn't*. But it *is*. Except under Python 3, of course, which is the problem. > logic applies to *any* setuptools feature that is used in the > development of setuptools itself. Trying to make it available adds > lots of complexity for the benefit of very few people (ie, people > writing the setuptools code). It's not so much "trying to". Since the structure of the package is such that setuptools end up directly on the path, it *is* available. So the question is if we should make sure it *isn't* available, by moving it all down into a src directory, and then modify the setup-script so that it no longer depends on setuptools. > Bootstrapping like this should be reserved for people writing C > compilers in C, and other equally major-league projects. Are you saying setuptools isn't major-league? ;-) -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
