On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Cournapeau <da...@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp> wrote: > Paul Moore wrote: >> >> Are you saying that you need to use setuptools (or at least the >> feaures of setuptools) to develop setuptools? That's crazy.To run the >> setuptools tests, just run the test.py (or whatever) script. The >> setuptools ability to type python setup.py test, while convenient, >> simply isn't available while you're developing setuptools. The same >> logic applies to *any* setuptools feature that is used in the >> development of setuptools itself. Trying to make it available adds >> lots of complexity for the benefit of very few people (ie, people >> writing the setuptools code). >> >> Bootstrapping like this should be reserved for people writing C >> compilers in C, and other equally major-league projects. >> > > I don't know the details of setuptools, but it is generally quite > tempting to develop a new build/distribution tool using the new build > tool, with some bootstrap process. That's how most build tools I know > work, actually. FWIW, we use this as well in numpy for numpy.distutils > extensions. > > And as much as you can count me in the "not a setuptools fan camp", I > think it is easy to say setuptools code is bad - that's the natural > reaction, really, and I would be surprised if P.J.E would not agree. But > I also think anyone who had to deal with distutils extensions will tell > you the same story - that's inherent to how distutils was conceived (10 > years ago) and implemented. The distutils codebase is pretty horrible - > I find m4 macro and 100000 lines of shell code in autoconf easier to > deal with, really. You can deal with it, but it will certainly never be > pretty. >
this can change. I am working on it. I need feedback though. let me know how my extension code proposal fits your needs. http://wiki.python.org/moin/Distutils/ManifestPluginSystem/Draft > David > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - distutils-...@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
