On Jul 10, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
2009/7/10 Jim Fulton <j...@zope.com>:
I don't think this perspective is reflective so much of web
development as
of application development. Those of us who work on web
applications need
to provide working applications, often with hard scalability and
reliability
requirements. We need to have control over how our applications are
assembled so we can test known configurations and deploy them in a
repeatable way. I think this would apply equally well to other
sorts of
applications.
On Windows, desktop applications generally use py2exe. While there are
issues for the *developer* in setting up a reproducible build
environment for py2exe, for the *end user* the application is
self-contained and as such the sort of deployment issues I assume you
are referring to don't exist.
Actually, they exist and are addressed by py2exe. On other platforms,
they're addressed with tools like buildout, and virtualenv, and
probably others.
So, from my POV, all of the machinery to manage multiple versions of
packages, isolated environments, etc, is inapplicable.
I'm not saying this means such concerns are invalid, merely supporting
David's point that different communities have different issues.
I don't disagree. I was really just pointing out that there isn't
anythin special about web developers. Really the need relates to
application development. That is, wen application developer's needs
aren't really different from other application developers' needs.
Jim
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Jim Fulton
Zope Corporation
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