> The PyPI discussions seem to be tending toward mixing the window dressing 
> with the framing, to use a building analogy, and what that will result in is 
> a weak frame and ugly windows.  A building that slowly (or quickly) falls 
> down under its own weight, and looks bad doing it.
> 
> I think that splitting 
> 
>       > package storage and pointers to off-repository storage (for those who 
> don't upload to PyPI)
>       > metadata about the stored packages
>       > tools for creating stored packages
>       > tools for retrieving stored packages
>       > tools for installing packages
> 
> would go a long way towards unobfuscating this whole discussion

Is not what sourceforge already provide? Susebuild server could provide support 
to complete the loop:

>       > package storage and pointers to off-repository storage (for those who 
> don't upload to PyPI)

>       > metadata about the stored packages

1 sorce/project management/metadata (sourceforge)

>       > tools for creating stored packages
>       > tools for retrieving stored packages

2 continuous build binary (susebuild)
3 package repositpry download (with programmatic api) on susebuild

>       > tools for installing packages
yum/yast/apt etc tools are already there for linux o and supported on opensuse 
build server


Regards,
Antonio

If you can forgive my self promotion I've used this approach in a project of 
mine (pyvm.sf.net): is not completely automated, but it fits the bill point by 
point: moreover it has support for unitesting too.


> 
> Yes, I'm sure someone will disagree with some fine-point of that division but 
> isn't that what  woodshedding is all about?


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