Also (see my reply to Nick's "inversion" proposal) we can add: 5. Provide a stable documented programming interface.
Paul On 13 July 2013 15:54, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote: > This issue has been skirted round for some time now, and I think it needs > explicit discussion, as I am not at all sure everyone has the same > expectations. > > We're talking about Python 3.4 installations having pip as the default > package manager - whether by bundling, having a bootstrap process or > whatever. Regardless of the means, pip will be *the* installer for Python > 3.4+. And yet, I don't think pip 1.4 currently does what people want "the > Python 3.4 pip" to do in some ways - and we need to make sure that any work > on the pip side is understood, agreed to, and planned to match the Python > 3.4 timescales. > > So, here's my initial list of things that I think people might be > expecting to happen. This is just my impressions, and I don't necessarily > have a view on the individual items. And if anyone else can think of other > things to add to the list, please do so! > > 1. Install to user-packages by default. > 2. Not depend on setuptools (??? - Nick's "inversion" idea) > 3. Possibly change the wrapper command name from pip to pip3 on Unix. > 4. Ensure that pip upgrading itself in-place is sufficiently robust and > reliable that users don't get "stuck" on the Python-supplied version. > > I'm sure I've seen people say other things that have made me think "are > you expecting the pip maintainers to make that change?" in the various > threads, so I doubt this list is definitive. > > Comments anyone? Is this discussion premature? The pip maintainers team is > not huge, so we'll need time (or assistance!) to plan in and make changes > like this, if they are needed... > > At a minimum, can we get the key items logged on the pip issue tracker > with a milestone of Python 3.4? > > Paul >
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