> I think it's still useful to have pip vendor just pkg_resources (as > pip.pkg_resources). It's easy, it gives you enough to install wheels, > and it's not the only thing you would do.
I agree. there's 2 problems to be solved here 1) making pip a self-sufficient wheel installer (which requires some internal pkg_resources equivalent) 2) removing the user headache of a setuptools build *dependency* for practically all current pypi distributions for #2, we have a few paths I think 1) bundle setuptools (and have pip install "pkg_resources" for console scripts, if it existed as a separate project) 2) bundle setuptools (and rewrite the console script wrapper logic to not need pkg_resources?) 3) dynamic install of setuptools from wheel when pip needs to instal sdists (which is 99.9% of the time, so this feels a bit silly) 4) just be happy that the pip bootstrap/bundle efforts will alleviate the pain in new versions of python (by pre-installing setuptools?)
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