fyi, I'm updating donald's original setuptools bundle issue with all of
this as the choices become clearer
https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1049

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Marcus Smith <qwc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> virtualenv /tmp/builder
>> /tmp/builder/bin/pip wheel -w /tmp/wheels -r requirements.txt
>>
>
> people will expect to be able to do this globally (i.e not in a
> virtualenv).  that's when the headache starts
>
> It does not try to avoid the non-problem of installing setuptools when you
>> actually need it
>>
>
> it's a practical problem for users, due to being currently responsible for
> fulfilling the setuptools dependency themselves in non-virtualenv
> environments
> IMO, we need to bundle or install it for them (through dynamic installs,
> or add the logic to get-pip)
>
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