Am 21.10.2015 um 14:55 schrieb David Cournapeau: > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Güttler > <guettl...@thomas-guettler.de <mailto:guettl...@thomas-guettler.de>> wrote: > > Am 21.10.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Ionel Cristian Mărieș: > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Thomas Güttler > <guettl...@thomas-guettler.de <mailto:guettl...@thomas-guettler.de> > <mailto:guettl...@thomas-guettler.de <mailto:guettl...@thomas-guettler.de>>> > wrote: > > > Why not deprecate and remove distutils? > > > Should we or can we? There was an attempt at that, called > distutils2. I'd love to hear what people have learnt from that. > > And if now-days walking around with pants instead of only underwear > is the way to go, should we still have underwear > under the pants? I think yes :-) In other words, setuptools uses > distutils. > > > ok, at the moment setuptools uses distutils. > > Why not melt them together into **one** underwear-pants-module? > > > What do you hope getting from that ? distutils is in the stdlib, so cannot > change easily > , and even if putting setuptools in the stdlib were possible, you would now > need to handle different versions of setuptools for different versions of > python.
I hope to be getting this: Packaging Python will be KISS. If setuptools in inside Python, then different versions of Python each have their matching version included. If a package has the need for newer version of setuptool, it provides the hint somewhere: required_setuptools_version>=N.M Then the matching version from pypi gets downloaded first. Looks straight forward for me. > On top of this, the goal of lots of efforts around packaging is to allow > people to move away from distutils/setuptools, as the underlying design is > fundamentally difficult to extend. If the underlying design is fundamentally difficult to extend, what should be done? Build tools on top of it? I guess this is not a good idea. Or start from scratch and deprecate the current underlying design in the future? What do you think? Regards, Thomas -- http://www.thomas-guettler.de/ _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
