On 4/10/06, oggie rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My point is not that you should or shouldn't have to write your own form 
> > code. My point is that (in my mind anyway) needing to write your own styles 
> > is not a barrier to reusing the admin form code.
>
> Yes, I agree. Like I mentioned, the only limitation I've faced with the
> styles that come with admin is the one that I mentioned above - I
> consider this a unique customization rather than a general need.
>
> > Styling forms (once) is a lot less tedious than writing them (over and 
> > over). And style is something that ought to be unique to each site (at 
> > least on the public side). Personally, I don't want to see a lot of Django 
> > sites out there that all look like they came from the same template.
>
> Also agreed. Very easy, too! The completeness and customizability of
> the admin framework is a really attractive feature of Django.
>

I disagree.

The point is to get a site out quickly some times. Having a site
looking like Django admin does not harm to people who spend time
customising their own templates. (and the people using the site
usually have no idea what django is, and don't care.. the target
audience is not going to be other django developers in most cases)

Take zyons.com for example, a open source forum app I'm developing. I
grabbed the admin template modified it slightly and pushed it out.

why is this good?
- I didn't need to spend a week creating my own custom look and feel
(although I probably will later on). This let me concentrate on the
application, and getting feedback from others.. (release early and
release often and all that)

- others can easily add the forum app into their own application as I
have used the same blocks as the admin template has. If I had designed
my own template, I would have modified those as well. making it harder
for others to integrate

- It was one of the reasons I chose django. It lowered the barrier to
entry for me. For my apps (internal and external) my concern is to get
the functionality out there and usable. If they are profitable I can
use some of that money to hire a graphic artist to customize it.

I could go on, but my main point is: it doesn't hurt the people who
choose to customize it, and it helps the people who haven't got time
to do this.

--Ian
>  -rob
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