Jay Parlar wrote:
> On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And an efficient tool should assist a user to become productive immediately.
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/Product#Functionality
>>
>> There are webframeworks which provide this functionality.
>>
>
> What exactly are you basing that claim "an efficient tool..." on?
taken from the above link:
"
Functionality
* Base Functionality - domain knowledge not neccessary (Product
encapsulates).
* Advanced Functionality - domain knowledge partly necessary.
* Expert Functionality - domain knowledge neccessary, partly
programming skills.
* Analyst Functionality - domain knowledge and analytic /
abstraction / programming skills necessary.
"
> There are a multitude of tools available that are incredibly
> efficient, but require a large learning curve (think high end
> video/audio editing applications, scientific computing apps, etc.).
those are other domains, but the above "Functionality Requirements"
should be valid for those domains, too.
> I
> think when you focus *too* much on being productive immediately, you
> often lose out in the long term.
I understand this.
But there are methods to deal with this, fro the quick-start topic here
e.g. a "multiple project templates" (as stated in another message):
django-admin.py startproject eval newcomer-project
django-admin.py startproject eval # uses standard-project
> I'm not saying that Django shouldn't have some effort on that, after
> all, it's the web framework for "perfectionists with deadlines", but
> you have to beware of blanket statements like you made. They hurt
> credibility.
I don't think that my statements are blanket.
I've provided demonstrations and even concrete results
(refactoring/implementation):
Newcomer first contact (as is):
http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoProductEvaluation
Newcomer first contact (as it could become, reduced steps)
http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoProductFictional
Schema Evolution Draft:
http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoSchemaEvolution
Concrete Working Patch:
http://code.djangoproject.com/attachment/ticket/2043/simple_evolution_support.diff
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