On Jun 21, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:

> What are the use cases for this sort of construction?
> [...]

I've always thought that any decent computer tool should either a) do  
what you tell it to, or b) tell you why it can't/won't do what you  
want it to (warnings, exceptions, etc.). I don't think we should be  
second-guessing developers. If we don't want to allow developers to  
do something, we should tell so, at the very least.

However, in this case, there *are* valid reasons for having an  
"empty" model. See my example in the thread start. (Of course, it's  
not *actually* empty, it has a "one-to-many" relationship with a  
child model, but those sorts of relationships must actually be  
defined as a ForeignKey in the child model, thus leaving Mama model  
empty.) And regardless of any use cases, I don't think we should  
assume that no one will ever want to do something, because chances  
are that people will, and for good reasons.

> [...]
> For this reason,
> I would be in favour of just creating the class in the database and  
> not
> issuing an error. On the grounds, that it gets the framework out of  
> the
> way of the developer and lets them get on with their preferred  
> method of
> working.

This is my preferred choice, as well, but I'm not well-versed enough  
in the internals of Django to know if allowing empty models can  
create other problems outside of the admin interface. If anyone could  
point me to the relevant areas of code (i.e. where in Django's code  
does it determine if a model shouldn't be created because it's empty,  
etc.), I'd be happy to take a crack at a patch or two to give these  
ideas a shot.

> [...]

Thanks for the input!

-Tyson

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