On 8/8/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 8/8/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A couple of other areas are going to be at least equally as
> > interesting...
>
> Malcolm has made some *really* good points throughout this thread, and
> I'm convinced that going  down this path would be a not-so-good idea.
>
> My opinion on it at this point could be be classified as "blah," or
> possibly "meh."
>
> I have a feeling that the underlying reason for wanting a standalone
> django.template, deep in our collective subconscious, is that the
> settings.configure() thing is inelegant. I shouldn't have to configure
> anything just to use the template library. I should be able to import
> django.template.Template and django.template.Context, and use them
> immediately to render some text.

I think there's a good psychological / community case to be made for
making django.template available standalone; as I put it earlier, many
people just don't like importing stuff they don't intend to use, no
matter how small it may be byte-wise.  Requiring someone to install
Django just to use the templating system is going to prevent them, in
various cases, from bothering at all.

> I think some work in this area *would* be worth it, as it would make
> it easier to use Django's template language in a standalone setting
> but would stop short of being a complete reorganization of the code
> and architecture.

I don't really intend for things to get *that* reorganized; packaging
and whatnot aside, my goal is for django.template to work without the
rest of Django installed.

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