Think I figured out the problem. Ubuntu doesn't look at
/etc/profile--that's why I wasn't getting PYTHONSTARTUP, even when I
didn't use --plain. Moving my export PYTHONSTARTUP line to
/etc/bash.bashrc worked.

So the issue now is that shell --plain doesn't use PYTHONSTARTUP,
which both Deryck and I think it should. :-) I've modified the ticket
to reflect the real state of affairs.

On Nov 14, 2007 10:17 AM, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Todd.  So this is two issues, then.
>
> On Nov 14, 2007 9:04 AM, Todd O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Good point. In fact, I wasn't using --plain, but PYTHONSTARTUP wasn't
> > being respected anyway. Any ideas why the heck that should happen?
>
> No idea, sorry. :-)  I'd attach with pdb and walk through how the
> options are being set and try to deduce why you're getting this
> behavior.  That's how I would handle it, but others will certainly
> have there own ideas.
>
> This is the real bug here, so it would be nice to see why it happens for you.
>
> >
> > At any rate, I don't think it matters whether you use --plain or not.
> > If you use --plain, you'd expect to get normal behavior for typing
> > python at a terminal prompt, which does use PYTHONSTARTUP. If you
> > don't use --plain and don't have IPython installed, why should you not
> > just get the normal behavior you'd expect from using plain Python,
> > i.e., respecting the PYTHONSTARTUP environment variable?
> >
>
> I would agree with this, too.  I think the initial thought when this
> was added during the last sprint was that plain implies nothing extra,
> but really I think it should be the plain shell as you have it setup
> by honoring PYTHONSTARTUP or pythonrc.
>
> It might be nice to update the ticket to point to this discussion with
> a note summarizing, since it's not really the real bug.
>
>
> Cheers,
> deryck
>
> >
>

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