On Sep 16, 9:43 am, Patrick Altman <palt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another "community voice" contribution on this thread...
>
> I am of the opposite opinion.  I think it would be better for Django as a 
> whole if django.contrib approached zero.  In fact, I would have no problem 
> with seeing it go away completely and promote auth and sessions to core but 
> done in a way that is pluggable.  The reasoning behind this opinion is that 
> it leaves the surface area in the project smaller to maintain and it's really 
> not that hard to add a sorl-thumbnail external app to a Django project.  
> Furthermore, it provides more freedom for these apps to mature and develop at 
> their own pace.
>
> I realize I could very well be in a minority opinion here, but thought I'd 
> throw it into the mix nonetheless.

Another vote for evolving away from contrib.

My hope is that one day http://djangopackages.com/ will become
packages.djangoproject.com

(and along with that a management command startapp-dist which starts a
distributable skeleton)

-Preston

>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Brian O'Connor wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have absolutely no pull in decision making, but maybe my message will 
> > count towards a "community voice".
>
> > I think that including an image thumbnail package that integrates into the 
> > database as easily as sorl.thumbnail and easy_thumbnail are is a great 
> > idea.  From what I can tell, sorl.thumbnail was the de facto standard for 
> > getting thumbnails in to Django, and I think it has just as much of a place 
> > in Django contrib as some of the other contrib apps do.  I don't think it 
> > belongs in the core, but contrib seems like an excellent place for it to go 
> > along with the other batteries in the pack.
>
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Yo-Yo Ma <baxterstock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have no data to support the following assertion, but it's not too
> > unreasonable: More people probably need thumbnail images than they
> > need comments. Comments are most used on blogs, whereas thumbnails can
> > be used on blogs, e-commerce, photo hosting, social networking,
> > project management, et al. It's not to say that we don't need
> > "contrib.comments", just that I wouldn't want to lose easy_thumbnails.
>
> > On Sep 15, 11:32 pm, "David P. Novakovic" <davidnovako...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Actually, that really did sound negative. Sorry :)
>
> > > Is there a trac ticket open to address this issue? Generally it'd be
> > > better to get discussion happening over a ticket and if there are
> > > serious issues that need to be addressed then they can be discussed
> > > here.
>
> > > I know it'd be nice to get things like easy-thumbnails accepted into
> > > django.contrib , but the truth is that this probably falls outside of
> > > things that that should be in contrib. Contrib isn't really an easier
> > > way to get stuff into django, it still has to satisfy a bunch of
> > > conditions like the rest of the code in the core.
>
> > > The real question is not "can it be included?" but why is it a problem
> > > that this is a third party lib at the moment? Is there a strong case
> > > that it be better if it was part of django core or does it do its job
> > > just fine the way it is now?
>
> > > David
>
> > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:09 PM, David P. Novakovic
>
> > > <davidnovako...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I don't want to sound negative, but answering your own question before
> > > > anyone else can doesn't change the answer ;)
>
> > > > D
>
> > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Yo-Yo Ma <baxterstock...@gmail.com> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Is there any plans to 
> > > >> incorporatehttp://github.com/SmileyChris/easy-thumbnails/
> > > >> into django.contrib? I have seen so many apps/libraries come into and
> > > >> go out of existence (http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/ThumbNailsfor
> > > >> instance mentions sorl-thumbnails which is no longer being developed).
> > > >> I just turned the key with easy-thumbnails and voila. It's like magic,
> > > >> but not. It's easy enough to see what's going on behind the scenes.
>
> > > >> This is something that, with the help of the core and other
> > > >> contributors, could be really great. It works for me as it it is, but
> > > >> it may not work for a more "enterprise" application that uses S3, etc.
> > > >> It might not be highly efficient (I wouldn't know). It might have bugs
> > > >> that I just haven't noticed yet. I'm mentioning all of this because I
> > > >> know somebody will say, "Why move it into Django if it's doing just
> > > >> fine as a separate project?". After experiencing the bliss I thought
> > > >> I'd drop a line here about it, and see what you guys thought.
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