On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Richard Laager <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 21:26 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>> Until I start seeing kibibyte being used in the New York Times, or the
>> prefered usage in the Chicago Manual of Style, the kibibyte is little
>> more to me than an intriguing expression of pedantry. Yes, the
>> existing usage is confusing and ambiguous. We don't fix that by
>> picking new and relatively unknown terminology.
>
> Django's existing practice would be considered a bug in Ubuntu:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy
>
> I realize their policy isn't binding on you as upstream, but how would
> you suggest they fix it?

That's their problem. Ubuntu isn't the grand arbiter of all things
good and right in the world. I have enough to worry about in my life
without adding adherence to policies that I had no role in generating
and haven't agreed to support. If someone can demonstrate that Ubuntu,
Apple, Microsoft, and Redhat all implement the same policy, *then* we
might have something to discuss.

Otherwise, Django packages what Django packages. If Ubuntu wants to
change what Django packages, that's entirely up to them. I only hope
we don't have to go down the route of prefacing every documentation
page with "If you're using Ubuntu, this documentation may be
completely inaccurate". We already have to do this in a couple of
places (e.g., naming of django-admin), and it's a right royal PITA.

> Given that the filter can't know whether the application is using it for
> disk, RAM, or files, I'd propose it be changed to use base-10 units to
> get most cases right.

And again, I'd propose that saying "most" implies a consensus that
doesn't exist. For good or bad, Django implements one commonly
understood interpretation.

If you really want them, providing your own filter library that
implements base 10 factors or kibi prefixes isn't that hard. And it
isn't hard to distribute as a standalone library.

And to shortcut the next line of argument -- I'm not fundamentally
opposed to changing what Django ships. You just have to come armed
with more evidence than a straw man "Most", or a single "Ubuntu says
so" argument.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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