Sasha,

At Mozilla we've found it incredibly useful to have a lot of control
on JSON serialization strictly for testing: 
https://github.com/davedash/django-fixture-magic

Take note of the fact that this is python, and Django doesn't need to
support all your desires, you can simply write your own apps that do
what you need.

Since you're thinking model-centric stuff, that would work well with
our Fixture Magic stuff, you might have some luck forking from us and
implementing what you need.

-d

On Feb 26, 3:44 pm, Alexander Bolotnov <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hiya,
>
> thanks a lot for your response. So, using my approach (the json generation
> templates) is somewhat more or less ok then? I'd like to get involved but
> I'm just not really good at python and django, so I guess I will be mixing
> rather than fixing I'm afraid :)
>
> By putting json serialization to models I mean being able to def something
> simple in it that will use a handy serializer and return json/xml
> presentation.
>
> Sasha Bolotnovwww.gorizont-zavalen.ru
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Russell Keith-Magee <
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Alexander Bolotnov <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Is there a way to control json serialization in django? Simple code below
> > > will return serialized object in json:
> > ...
> > > You can see it's serializing it in a way that you are able to re-create
> > the
> > > whole model, shall you want to do this at some point - fair enough, but
> > not
> > > very handy for simple JS ajax in my case: I want bring the traffic to
> > > minimum and make the whole thing little clearer.
>
> > You're not the first to propose this. It's a long standing feature
> > request, and yes, we'd like to address it. However, nothing gets built
> > by magic -- someone needs to find the time to devise an API and
> > implement it.
>
> > There was a recent post on django-dev from someone expressing interest
> > in doing this for the Summer of Code. However, anyone else with an
> > interest is certainly welcome to get involved.
>
> > > I'm thinking json generating should be part of the model (correct me if
> > I'm
> > > wrong) and done with either native python-json and django implementation
> > but
> > > can't figure how to make it strip the bits that I don't want.
>
> > This isn't a good idea. Serialization isn't an activity that is unique
> > to models, and JSON isn't the only serialization format. For example,
> > you may want an XML serializer to interface with certain APIs, and you
> > may need an XML serializer and two different JSON serializers in the
> > same project in order to interface with various subsystems. Therefore,
> > serialization needs to be handled independent of the model definition.
>
> > The approach that we have historically discussed (but not implemented)
> > is to define serialization in two parts:
>
> >  1) a DSL that defines the rules for an output format -- e.g., which
> > fields will be included, what extra metadata will be included, how
> > deep relations will be traversed.
>
> >  2) an set of engines that implements the rules of the DSL for a each
> > serialization language.
>
> > What we have at present is a single implied definition of (1) encoded into
> > (2).
>
> > > One more thing - even when I restrict it to a set of fields to serialize,
> > it
> > > will keep the id always outside the element container and instead present
> > it
> > > as "pk" outside of it.
>
> > Yes - which is by design. Django's serializers were designed to allow
> > for dumping and reconstructing data in a database. That means that
> > being able to easily identify the primary key is important.
>
> > Yours,
> > Russ Magee %-)
>
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