As someone maintaining some very old django sites with hacks to the core, 
deprecation warnings are very useful to me.  I know I'm not alone.  There is no 
reason to not flag deprecated methods/functions/routines/etc prior to removal.

If you're being nagged by deprecation warnings than... well... That's the point!

The annotation "Will be deprecated" is also useful.  

Change requires care, IMHO.

Many hackers on this list continually work on the latest version.  Many don't.

peace,

Ryan McIntosh
Software Architect
PeaceWorks Technology Solutions
ph: (204) 480-0314
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Schepanovski" <suor....@gmail.com>
To: "Django developers" <django-developers@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:48:38 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: deprecation vs removal

> It allows you the luxury of taking the time,
> and encourages you to upgrade even if you don't have time to make
> application changes.

It doesn't really saves time for me. But maybe I'm an uncommon case.
Some of things I do with django are pretty tied up to its internals.

But even a common user, who himself doesn't hack into django may use
third-party libs that do: migration, automatic caching, any orm, form
and template extenders. And for the developers of that libs
deprecation is a waste not help, at least what it feels for me. For
common user this means he cannot upgrade until all hos libs upgraded
or he himself is forced into hacking them.

So dropping deprecation could be a strategic win in a sense it will
help django infrastructure flourish. At least this is worth
considering.

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