For the record: It's bad timing for Idan.  He lives in Tel Aviv which
is currently receiving intermittent rocket attacks.  He may be a bit
slow to respond.  ;)

Let's wish him and his family safety and the luxury of worrying about
django's admin in good time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Victor Hooi <victorh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm guessing there aren't any updates on this? Lol.
>
> Idan - you mentioned you'd like to get thoughts on what we hope to achieve
> in a new admin - basically, what is the purpose of Django's contrib.admin -
> is that right?
>
> Is there some place that people can brainstorm or contribute their thoughts
> on this? Should somebody make a wiki page for collecting all this?
>
> Cheers,
> Victor
>
>
> On Friday, 18 May 2012 20:18:59 UTC+10, patrickk wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Idan. We mainly did Grappelli because of the look & feel (and
>> then added some functionality like autocompletes).
>>
>> However, it just doesn´t make sense to simply "beautify" the existing
>> admin-interface. Rethinking the functionality, adding flexibility, being
>> able to customize ... these are all necessary steps IMHO, but I´m still
>> missing a clear approach/roadmap on how/when this should happen.
>>
>> I planned to give a talk on djangocon.eu about how to improve the
>> admin-interface. Unfortunately, I had to step back from that idea because of
>> some customer-related projects. Still, the thoughts are there and I´m happy
>> to discuss this issue anytime. This discussion could start with defining the
>> so-called "trusted editor" – what does he/she knows resp. needs to know when
>> dealing with the admin-interface? What are the consequences (e.g., does an
>> editor care about an app-list, does he even know what it is)? What
>> working-groups do we need (python, html/css, js, ...)? How can we publish
>> the process/discussion? And much more ... let´s start ... but how?
>>
>> best,
>> patrick
>>
>>
>> Am Montag, 30. April 2012 23:41:14 UTC+2 schrieb Idan Gazit:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Brett H wrote:
>>>
>>> > Increasing the flexibility for development and integration is more
>>> > important than trying to 2nd guess where we are going to be in 5 years
>>> > time.
>>>
>>> Fair enough, but that sort of flexibility is available now. Nothing is
>>> preventing you from starting your 3rd-party admin app today.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The issue is Django's officially-blessed, officially-documented admin.
>>> I'm not sure it's better to have admin in contrib (or contrib at all, but
>>> that's a separate ball of wax). I have a feeling that this issue will
>>> probably be addressed once again now that we're on github.
>>>
>>> All the same, if there's going to be an official django admin, I'd like
>>> it to give some thought to the issues I've raised. I have no problem (read:
>>> would love) to draw upon existing solutions for an admin revamp, but right
>>> now I don't have a fitness function to guide my decisions, and I think that
>>> is necessary. Not a spec, just an attempt to step back and think about what
>>> the admin should do.
>>>
>>> -I
>>>
>>>
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