On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Shai Berger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to draw your attention to bug #8162[1]. It is old as sin, and
> annoying as virtue.
>

You won't get any argument from me on this analysis.


> The gist of it is: because, for all models, when the admin is present,
> permissions are created automatically; because these permissions are named
> "Can %s %s" % (action, model.verbose_name); that name gets put in a 50-long
> charfield, and actions "change" and "delete" have length 6 -- so,
> verbose-name
> cannot have length >39.
>
> It gets even more annoying with automatic many-to-many fields, which have a
> generated verbose name of "%s-%s relationship", limiting sum of lengths of
> class names to around 25, forcing creation of an explicit "through" model
> in
> some cases.
>
> The bug was specified as a request to change the Permission model, and as
> such
> was (and is) triaged as "someday/maybe", supposedly waiting for schema
> alteration in core. Other suggestions to resolve the issue have been
> ignored;
> in particular, a bug that pointed the problem without suggesting a (wrong,
> IMO) solution was marked as duplicate[2].
>
> Can we re-evaluate this, please?
>

Sure.

Has schema alteration been added to core? No.

Evaluation complete :-)

To fix this, we need to alter the schema. Until we have a way to automate
this process as part of a Django version upgrade, I don't see any practical
way to fix this bug.

The good news is that it's only the extreme cases that hit this bug --
class names of with names that are 25 characters or longer -- and if that's
a description of your codebase, I'd say you've got other problems. This
isn't Java. We don't need (or want)
AbstractObserverInterfaceFactoryFactorySingletons in our code :-)

(Seriously -- I know that there are occasionally good reasons for long
class names -- I'm just saying they're an edge case, and an edge case that
isn't *that* common in idiomatic Python)

You say that "Other suggestions to resolve the issue have been ignored" -
I'm unaware of any such suggestions. Can you point at or summarise them? If
there's a viable option, I'd be in favour of applying that fix, but I
genuinely can't say I see any option that is both backwards compatible, and
doesn't require schema migrations.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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