In addition, Django implements the (non-standard) __html__ protocol: 
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/7261.

I believe escaping will work correctly without many, if any, changes.

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On 12 févr. 2014, at 22:40, Marc Tamlyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Point of order: Jinja2 does now have autoescaping 
> (http://jinja.pocoo.org/docs/extensions/#autoescape-extension)
> 
> Do not take this as any opinion on the matter
> 
> 
> On 12 February 2014 21:34, Donald Stufft <[email protected]> wrote:
> Crate had one, i'd have to pull it out but it was a pretty simple template. 
> The sticking
> point was it had a 30k item loop which was significantly faster in Jinja2.
> 
> On Feb 12, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Curtis Maloney <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> At this point someone should start asking for real-world examples with 
>> measurements.
>> 
>> I'm personally of the "let's see if we can improve DTL first, then revisit 
>> the question" stance.
>> 
>> But in order to show any improvements, we must have timings for the current 
>> tool.
>> 
>> Can people who've suffered slowness please donate fragments of template 
>> they've found particularly slow?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 February 2014 21:29, Gwildor Sok <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There are a few problems with Christian's assumptions:
>> 
>> * Not everyone uses a JS Framework. Personally, we use a lot of static 
>> pages, and when we do want to do some fancy stuff, we use pjax to replace 
>> content on the page, but in the backend this is still done by rendering a 
>> full template through a Django view.
>> 
>> We run a hybrid side, and fairly high traffic [7k req/min is a fairly 
>> typical] and I've yet to find a major template performance issue that didn't 
>> turn out to be a DB hit hiding in an object, or similar.
>> 
>> That's not to say I don't think it can be faster...
>>  
>> * The templating language is also used for small stuff, and the switch to 
>> Jinja would enable using the templating language for even more stuff. The 
>> biggest issue that comes to mind are template-based widgets.
>> 
>> Actually, django-sniplates and django-formulation both allow using another 
>> template as a "bag of macros".  I'm also working on a "just macros" rework 
>> of the idea.  formulation even has a "reuse" tag so you can define template 
>> macros [using blocks] within your template.
>>  
>> Personally, I'm in favor of switching to Jinja. The speed bonus and the 
>> ability to call functions with arguments are great features for me.
>> 
>> I guess it's time I finally write my "What should I pass in the Context" 
>> blog post... to point out that your designers are [usually] not coders, and 
>> shouldn't have to understand your data structures or schema.  Whilst in some 
>> ways perhaps excessively, DTL does make you consider your data structures.
>>  
>> One downside I can think of is that Jinja does not escape variables by 
>> default, which might become a XSS security issue.
>> 
>> That's quite a large downside!
>>  
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>> Curtis
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