On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Russell Keith-Magee <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Florian Apolloner 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:01:25 PM UTC+1, Cal Leeming [Simplicity
>> Media Ltd] wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll give it a couple more days for a BDFL to gives the thumbs up/down.
>>>
>>
>> Well, we don't have BDFLs anymore and Shai already said he is -0 on it,
>> count me in with a relatively strong -0 too. I'd be a bit more open to it
>> if you could a better name. That said I generally agree with Shai about the
>> validation, eg this should be handled by the database constraints already
>> -- otherwise selecting via get doesn't make much sense imo.
>>
>
> Count me as a -0 as well. I simply don't see the problem with catching
> exceptions. Changing the name doesn't modify my objections.
>

Then why did first() [1] get added? The only difference is that first()
adds a reference to [0], but it still saves the equal amount of code and is
still there for the same reasons of convenience, no?

[1]
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/querysets/#django.db.models.query.QuerySet.first


>
> I'm probably a true neutral 0 on a django.shortcuts method mirroring
> get_object_or_404 (which, BTW, is what the way-back-in-2007 thread was
> proposing). I still don't see the point, but at least it's in a shortcuts
> module, and clearly labelled as such, not a method on a manager duplicating
> existing functionality.
>
> Yours,
> Russ Magee %-)
>
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