I suspect you're probably right. Having to run makemigrations in between making changes to model code and running tests isn't the end of the world i suppose. Will know better what I'm talking about when I've actually got to that part of the book...
On 29 March 2014 18:23, Andrew Godwin <and...@aeracode.org> wrote: > No, there is no way to turn off migrations for tests - some of the core > tests won't work without them turned on, in fact, and adding that option > would be weird (why only tests? what would it do? how do you load data in > now initial_data is gone?). The only complaint I've seen - the one that > Bernie brought up originally, that it's "extra work" to run makemigrations > before each test run - doesn't really hold water with me, as the > alternative options mean you could run the tests and have them pass WITHOUT > HAVING THE RIGHT MIGRATIONS - and so you're not testing part of your > codebase. > > Hell, you can alias together makemigrations and test if you want, that'll > save you the typing. This might make a few more migrations than normal, but > you could quickly point out that squashmigrations exists to deal with this > problem and move on. > > Andrew > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Harry Percival > <harry.perci...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Am just working on updating my book on TDD to django 1.7 based on the >> beta. Currently half-way thru, not run into any problems because I don't >> use migrations until a later chapter, but when I do I will run into the >> same problems Bernie mentions. >> >> Will share more once I've finished the rewrites, but from what I see so >> far, I think I'd personally prefer to be able to run my tests without >> having to remember to call makemigrations every time. some kind of >> customisable option? either a command-line flag for the test runner, or >> maybe a setting in settings.py, eg MIGRATIONS_OFF_FOR_TESTS = True? >> >> personally i'd like the default to be true, but i can appreciate other >> people will have different workflows / assumptions. >> >> >> >> >> On Friday, 28 March 2014 16:48:52 UTC, Andrew Godwin wrote: >> >>> Yes, --update is very risky if you run it on migrations that are already >>> committed and pushed, but the main reason I left it out of 1.7 was >>> complexity (because makemigrations is now much more intelligent, updating >>> and adding a foreignkey into a migration might introduce a new dependency >>> or force a new migration anyway). Given that we have the ability to safely >>> squash large numbers of small migrations down into one with >>> squashmigrations and distribute that to fix the many-small-migrations >>> problem, I considered it pretty low priority, though I have a rough idea of >>> how I could make it work (I'd have to load up the autodetector with the >>> existing migrations already loaded in as a halfway state and then run it >>> from there, which should produce the right result). >>> >>> Anyway, if you're retracting your original request, I'm happy to leave >>> this for the 1.7 release; I don't think there's a good solution that Django >>> core can implement effectively. This reminds me of when people used to ask >>> me to automatically stop their developers writing conflicting migrations - >>> the solution varies from company to company and often isn't technical but >>> just education or communication. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Bernie Sumption >>> <ber...@berniecode.com>wrote: >>> >>>> South's `--update` also rolled the previous migration back, changed it >>>>> and then reapplied it to the current database. >>>>> >>>> >>>> OK, in that case I can very much see how it's useful for people who >>>> develop against a persistent database. That's probably most people. >>>> >>>> Anyway, the result of this thread for me is that I now consider my >>>> original request to be obsolete, as the "git clean" thing is a simple way >>>> of getting the behaviour I want for my own style of TDD without hacks. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time. >>>> >>>> Bernie :o) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Django developers" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to django-d...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>> msgid/django-developers/8e3ecf3c-aa05-4e3d-b905- >>>> 3260b093e046%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/8e3ecf3c-aa05-4e3d-b905-3260b093e046%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/a2897318-ec81-4acd-b201-2591042db1a0%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/a2897318-ec81-4acd-b201-2591042db1a0%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Django developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/django-developers/PWPj3etj3-U/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAFwN1uoqPk47Zbd7fDA9pP3VyJ5xw%2B4UciBffD-jgKq88i4MJQ%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAFwN1uoqPk47Zbd7fDA9pP3VyJ5xw%2B4UciBffD-jgKq88i4MJQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ------------------------------ Harry J.W. 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