On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Hannu Krosing <ha...@krosing.net> wrote:
> On 06/14/2014 02:40 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > > It seems to weird to claim (even best-effort/community) support for a > database that is no longer supported by its authors. Also, you can always > use an older version of Django, right? I tend to think you're probably not > interested in the latest and greatest Django if you're using a really old > database. My general proposal (for all databases) would be to drop support > for a database version in the Django release that follows its end-of-life > date. > > Regarding testing, Oracle is currently not on CI, but Shai and I are > working to add support for 11 and 12. This would actually be the only > database where we have testing for multiple versions. For the other > databases we are using whatever version Ubuntu 12.04 ships with (PostgreSQL > 9.1.13, MySQL 5.5.37). > > > Heh, The "whatever version Ubuntu 12.04 ships with" test policy seems kind > of weird (especially if this is meant to go on forever :) ) > It's an arbitrary version selection of an old(ish) commonly used Linux distribution. In an ideal world: Yes, we'd test against every major distro, and every major Postgres version installed on that distro, and so on; but we have limited resources (including the patience to make and configure build boxes as one of those resources :-) At some point in the future, long before EOL of Ubuntu 12.04, we'll probably upgrade the build boxes to 14.04. I'm guessing the introduction of Marc's PostgreSQL-specific features from his Kickstarter might be the stimulus for this. > According to http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning/ PostgreSQL 9.1 > was released 2.5 years ago and is in the middle of its 5 year life cycle > which ends in September 2016. > > PostgreSQL 9.1 also lacks lots of newer stuff. > > Thanks to ubuntu/debian pg_createcluster and friends it is actually easy > to run multiple versions of postgresql (I have everything from 8.4 to > latest 9.4 beta running in parallel on my laptop), so my suggestion would > be at least for postgresql to > > a) add pgdg repo to ubuntu ( > http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ ) > b) test with all versions supported by pgdg > Yes, this is possible; the question is whether this is a valuable use of our limited resources. I can only think of a handful of occasions in Django's 8 year public history where SQL-handling behaviour in PostgreSQL has changed in a way that required testing multiple versions - and most of those occasions were in the 7.X-8.X transition. Django's usage of SQL is fairly conservative; the areas where PostgreSQL is add features aren't the areas where Django treads, generally. As a result, there is a reduced imperative to test all these versions. This will of course change when we start supporting PostgreSQL-specific features, so we'll probably have to revisit this - but even then, I suspect testing an old version (e.g., 9.1) and a recent version (e.g., 9.4) will probably give us sufficient confidence that the build is working. Yours, Russ Magee %-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAJxq849rV6pu_gX9JaCKOHxj%2BFU9p9U3ii%2BA54VHjF7WncT5Gw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
