And after you throw away the ORM, you have to throw away every other library that does blocking IO (anything in the stdlib, memcached, redis, requests, etc.). There are absolutely no affordances in WSGI for use with non-blocking libraries like asyncio or Twisted.
Alex On Wed Oct 29 2014 at 1:45:59 AM Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augustin.2...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > Then the first step is to throw away the ORM. > > See my talk at DjangoCon US 2013 for details. > > -- > Aymeric. > > Le 28 oct. 2014 à 23:36, Marco Paolini <markopaol...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > What if we do it with asyncio? > > 2014-10-28 22:47 GMT+01:00 Aymeric Augustin < > aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org>: > >> No, there isn’t. >> >> I assume that “including in core” means at least “making usable in >> combination with WSGI and with the ORM”. >> >> Even if we disregard for a minute the fact that WSGI is incompatible with >> websockets, the ORM is a hard problem, because current solutions involve >> either (a) threads — not particularly scalable or (b) gevent — not >> particularly reliable. >> >> -- >> Aymeric. >> >> >> >> On 28 oct. 2014, at 22:06, Luis Masuelli <luisfmasue...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Is there any current development involving including websockets in django >> core? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/50768d16-1d05-489c-8cbf-2091d95ff388%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/50768d16-1d05-489c-8cbf-2091d95ff388%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/7D3898D4-50F7-4ACE-A081-0ACC9D824191%40polytechnique.org >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/7D3898D4-50F7-4ACE-A081-0ACC9D824191%40polytechnique.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAEbA68mnak1zdeAjTXM-Qfbz9mm%2B07qhfxZPCJPDfLFqHtcgpg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAEbA68mnak1zdeAjTXM-Qfbz9mm%2B07qhfxZPCJPDfLFqHtcgpg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/EEDD3BFA-B071-4FC4-93C7-0994E073D93B%40polytechnique.org > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/EEDD3BFA-B071-4FC4-93C7-0994E073D93B%40polytechnique.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAFRnB2USMMbCp4r58J2zhf9HXpCAtiPYQ6UfgR%3D8Eiy%2BvC-d9w%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
