I mean I made the proposal, but one drawback will be when linking to Postgresql Docs, what if they change the links? I mean that's barely happend in the past, however the " http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/non-durability.html"; is fairly new. (9.x). So we need to track every major upgrade on Postgresql if the docs changed.
2015-07-19 22:44 GMT+02:00 Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org>: > I agree with pointing to the relevant section of the PostgreSQL > documentation. It will always be more complete, accurate and up-to-date > that what we could write. > > -- > Aymeric. > > > > > On 19 juil. 2015, at 19:43, Christophe Pettus <x...@thebuild.com> wrote: > > > > This can be achieved by pointing to the relevant section in the > PostgreSQL documentation with a general "Test execution may be sped up by > adjusting the data integrity parameters in PostgreSQL; be sure to read the > appropriate warnings before making any changes" warning. > > > > Putting actual recommended settings in the Django documentation seems, > at a minimum, pointlessly duplicative, and ties the Django documentation to > the current state of the world in PostgreSQL gratuitously. > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Luke Plant <l.plant...@cantab.net> wrote: > > > >> I agree with Federico on this - as long as we slap a big warning on it > — "This is dangerous - it could make your database more likely to lose data > or become corrupted, only use on a development machine where you can > restore the entire contents of all databases in the cluster easily" — I > don't see a problem in this being in our docs. > >> > >> If people refuse to read a clear warning, they shouldn't be doing web > development. They are just as likely to find similar instructions on the > internet, but without warnings, and having it in our docs with the warning > will be helpful. > >> > >> Having a fast test suite is such an important part of development that > it shouldn't be held back by attempting to protect the world from people > who cannot be helped. > >> > >> Luke > >> > >> On 16/07/15 16:49, Christophe Pettus wrote: > >>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:16 AM, Federico Capoano < > federico.capo...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> I also don't like the idea of believing django users are too stupid to > >>>> understand that this advice si valid for development only. Generally > >>>> python and django users are intelligent enough to properly read the > >>>> docs and understand what's written on it. > >>>> > >>> It's not a matter of being "intelligent" or not. Developers are busy > and can simply google things, see a particular line, and drop it in without > fully understanding exactly what is going on. (Simply read this group for > a while if you don't believe this to be the case!) People already turn off > fsync, in production, after having read the PostgreSQL documentation, > without actually realizing that they've put their database in danger. > >>> > >>> Among other things, developers often have local data in their > PostgreSQL instance that is valuable, and advising them to do a setting > that runs the risk of them losing that data seems like a bad idea. > >>> > >>> The Django documentation is not the place to go into the ramifications > of fsync (or even synchronous_commit, although that's significantly less > risky). > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -- Christophe Pettus > >>> > >>> x...@thebuild.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> "I was sad because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no > >> feet. So I said, "Got any shoes you're not using?" 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