Hi all,

Here is a raw pull request, allowing lookup instances passing to filter 
method 
There are two new test cases working:

1. Passing lookup with F object: 
Article.objects.filter(GreaterThan(F('id'), Value(5)))
2. And passing lookup with transforms: 
Article.objects.filter(Contains(Upper(Lower(Upper(F('headline')))), 
'ARTICLE 5'))

All the existing tests are passing successfully, by the way (at least for 
SQLite backend).

Several comments:

   - F expressions became real expressions (Expression subclass).
   - Expression got a new method - get_source_f_object, which walks through 
   children classes and find if it has F object passed. In that case 
   output_field-related code should be postponed, until compiler resolves it 
   (which cannot be done during lookup init time).
   - some code related to query.build_filter method (responsible to 
   lookups/transform parsing, and calculating joins), extracted into separate 
   helper classes - QueryKeywordLookupHelper and QueryObjectLookupHelper. They 
   have common code base, but some of methods work in a different way.

Except review, it would be really great if someone help with writing test 
cases (and I'll get them working in case of any issues). Also, there is a 
workaround field=None -> isnull=True for oracle database, can anybody check 
if it is working correctly?

Regards,
Alexey


On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:38:39 AM UTC+3, Anssi Kääriäinen wrote:
>
> Lets concentrate on making expressions in filter calls and lookups as 
> expressions reality. When we have done that we can try out different 
> syntax approaches in 3rd party apps. Finally, after we have field 
> tested the approaches, we can merge something in to Django. 
>
>  - Anssi 
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Alexey Zankevich 
> <alex.za...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> >> I think the `F('name').decode('utf-8')` syntax is a good candidate for 
> >> core. 
> > 
> > When Django supports expression lookups, it will be possible to build 
> syntax 
> > sugar third-party library on top of it. 
> > For example, it will be possible to implement dotted syntax for F 
> objects: 
> > 
> > UserModel.objects.filter(Decode(F.user.name, 'utf-8') == u'Бармаглот') 
> > 
> > alternatively it can be even combined with your syntax 
> > 
> > UserModel.objects.filter(F.user.name.decode('utf-8') == u'Бармаглот') 
> > 
> > However, the second solution will be more complicated from technical 
> point 
> > of view (as will require lazy object, collecting all the func or 
> transform 
> > calls), also it will require to be really careful with transform names 
> not 
> > to conflict with possible field names. 
> > For example, it's hardly possible to have "decode" field in the model, 
> but 
> > easily - "date". 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 10:18:40 AM UTC+3, Loïc Bistuer wrote: 
> >> 
> >> > On Oct 1, 2015, at 13:38, Anssi Kääriäinen <akaa...@gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > +1 to not requiring all transforms to handle __underscore__ syntax. 
> >> 
> >> +1 
> >> 
> >> > I think what we want to do is allow users choose which syntax they 
> >> > prefer. The idea is that Django will support both JSONExtract('data', 
> >> > path=['owner', 'other_pets', 0, 'name']) and 
> >> > data__owner__other_pets__0__name out of the box. 
> >> > 
> >> > We will also make it possible to support callable transforms. For 
> >> > example: 
> >> >    filter(Exact(Decode(F('name'), 'utf-8'), Value(u'Бармаглот'))) 
> >> > is equivalent to 
> >> >    filter(F('name').decode('utf-8') == Value(u'Бармаглот')) 
> >> > 
> >> > The callable transforms syntax will not be a part of Django, but it 
> >> > will be possible to create an extension for this (it is actually 
> >> > surprisingly easy to do once we have support for expressions in 
> >> > filter). 
> >> 
> >> I'm pretty convinced we need a better API / sugar as part of core in 
> the 
> >> long run. 
> >> 
> >> The `filter(Exact(Decode(F('name'), 'utf-8'), Value(u'Бармаглот')))` 
> >> syntax is not pythonic and very hard to decipher, and we've reached the 
> >> limits of our historical double underscore syntax (doesn't support 
> multiple 
> >> arguments, limited to ascii, etc.). 
> >> 
> >> I think the `F('name').decode('utf-8')` syntax is a good candidate for 
> >> core: 
> >> 
> >> - It's a small extension to the existing F objects, so it's easy to 
> grasp 
> >> for existing Django users. 
> >> - It's just a thin sugar on top of the canonical API. 
> >> - All the required machinery being already in place (lookup & transform 
> >> registration) the change to Django is minimal. 
> >> 
> >> > - Anssi 
> >> > 
> >> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Josh Smeaton <josh.s...@gmail.com> 
> >> > wrote: 
> >> >> No, not all Lookups or Transforms are required to handle 
> __underscore__ 
> >> >> syntax. The entire point of supporting object based lookups is to 
> >> >> handle 
> >> >> cases that get more complex than a single argument transform or a 
> left 
> >> >> and 
> >> >> right hand side lookup. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> In particular, I think your Decode(utf8) example is a good one. It 
> >> >> shows 
> >> >> that you could maybe shoehorn multiple arg transforms into the 
> >> >> __underscore__ api, but it wouldn't be entirely obvious how to do 
> so. 
> >> >> You'd 
> >> >> probably need to register partial transformations for each encoding 
> you 
> >> >> wanted to support. The contrib.postgres module has (from memory) 
> >> >> KeyTransform classes that do a similar thing. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Cheers 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Thursday, 1 October 2015 02:13:41 UTC+10, Alexey Zankevich wrote: 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I'll try to turn lookups into expression (will use master branch). 
> >> >>> I also have a question. Meanwhile the old query syntax with 
> >> >>> underscores is 
> >> >>> pretty good for simple queries (like 
> Model.objects.filter(name='Bob'), 
> >> >>> it 
> >> >>> gets really ugly for parametrized calls, a new JSONField is a good 
> >> >>> example 
> >> >>> of that: 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>>>> Dog.objects.filter(data__owner__other_pets__0__name='Fishy') 
> >> >>> [<Dog: Rufus>] 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> It will get even more messy if we want to pass a string as a second 
> >> >>> param 
> >> >>> of the func. 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> ex.: 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 1. filter(Decode(F('name'), 'utf-8'), Value(u'Бармаглот'))   # <- 
> neat 
> >> >>> 2. filter(name__decode__utf8=u'Бармаглот')  # <- ?? ambiguous and 
> not 
> >> >>> nice 
> >> >>> at all 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> So question - is it implied all the funcs, transforms and lookups 
> to 
> >> >>> have 
> >> >>> underscore-based equivalent? It can affect the final implementation 
> >> >>> pretty 
> >> >>> much. In my opinion underscore-based equivalent should not be 
> really 
> >> >>> required for funcs (the problem doesn't seem to affect transforms 
> as 
> >> >>> they 
> >> >>> will not accept multiple params according to another thread). 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Thanks, 
> >> >>> Alexey 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 9:19:51 AM UTC+3, Anssi 
> Kääriäinen 
> >> >>> wrote: 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> I don't think we need split-to-subq support for Lookups before we 
> >> >>>> make 
> >> >>>> them expressions. Lookups as expressions are usable outside 
> >> >>>> .filter(), 
> >> >>>> and we need the split-to-subq support only in .filter(expression). 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> - Anssi 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Josh Smeaton <josh.s...@gmail.com> 
>
> >> >>>> wrote: 
> >> >>>>> I'm mixing my versions, sorry to those following along. 1.9 has 
> just 
> >> >>>>> reached 
> >> >>>>> alpha. Lookups as Expressions should be doable for 1.10 which 
> master 
> >> >>>>> is 
> >> >>>>> currently tracking. 
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> Cheers 
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 15:31:24 UTC+10, Josh Smeaton 
> wrote: 
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> The alpha for 1.10 has already been cut, and I'm not sure that 
> the 
> >> >>>>>> kinds 
> >> >>>>>> of changes needed here are appropriate to add now that the alpha 
> is 
> >> >>>>>> out. One 
> >> >>>>>> could *maybe* make the argument that changing Lookup to an 
> >> >>>>>> Expression 
> >> >>>>>> now 
> >> >>>>>> rather than later is the right move considering Transforms just 
> >> >>>>>> underwent 
> >> >>>>>> the same change for 1.10. Personally though, I don't think I 
> have 
> >> >>>>>> the 
> >> >>>>>> time 
> >> >>>>>> right now to do this change. I would support you if you were 
> able, 
> >> >>>>>> but 
> >> >>>>>> we'd 
> >> >>>>>> still be at the mercy of the technical board (I assume) for 
> getting 
> >> >>>>>> this 
> >> >>>>>> change in for 1.10. 
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> Do you think Lookup as Expressions requires the subquery/exclude 
> >> >>>>>> fix 
> >> >>>>>> you 
> >> >>>>>> mention above? I would think not -- not until we were ready to 
> >> >>>>>> document and 
> >> >>>>>> support .filter(Lookup(F(), Value()). If it wasn't a 
> requirement, 
> >> >>>>>> it'd 
> >> >>>>>> make 
> >> >>>>>> the Lookup->Expression work much easier. It wouldn't even need 
> to 
> >> >>>>>> be 
> >> >>>>>> documented (other than the release notes), as it'd just be an 
> >> >>>>>> implementation 
> >> >>>>>> change. 
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> Cheers, 
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 14:33:14 UTC+10, Anssi 
> Kääriäinen 
> >> >>>>>> wrote: 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> On the core ORM side we need to make 
> >> >>>>>>> .exclude(LessThan(F('friends__age'), 30)) do a subquery.  This 
> way 
> >> >>>>>>> .exclude(friends__age__lt=30) does the same thing as the 
> >> >>>>>>> expression 
> >> >>>>>>> version. This isn't that easy to do. If we just use 
> >> >>>>>>> resolve_expression, then the friends relation will generate a 
> >> >>>>>>> join, 
> >> >>>>>>> and then as second step do a negated filter on the joined 
> value. 
> >> >>>>>>> Instead we want to detect that the LessThan expression needs to 
> be 
> >> >>>>>>> pushed in to a subquery. 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> So, we need to solve: 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> A) A way to ask an expression if it is referencing a multijoin 
> >> >>>>>>> (possible approach is to just have a method 
> >> >>>>>>> "refs_multi_valued_relation(query)") 
> >> >>>>>>> B) When the ORM sees an expression that is reffing a multijoin 
> in 
> >> >>>>>>> an 
> >> >>>>>>> exclude filter, then we need to push the expression in to a 
> >> >>>>>>> subquery. 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> A) requires some new work. This shouldn't be that hard to 
> >> >>>>>>> implement, 
> >> >>>>>>> we just recursively ask subexpressions if they reference a 
> >> >>>>>>> multijoin. 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> Something like https://github.com/django/django/pull/4385 will 
> >> >>>>>>> make 
> >> >>>>>>> B) 
> >> >>>>>>> much easier to implement. 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> I've been working on making Q-objects responsible for resolving 
> >> >>>>>>> themselves. See https://github.com/django/django/pull/4801. 
> This 
> >> >>>>>>> should solve 3). 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> We don't seem to be missing any major parts. I (or some 
> volunteer) 
> >> >>>>>>> just need to finish the PRs, and then we should be really close 
> to 
> >> >>>>>>> full support for expressions in filter. 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> Josh: do you think we could get Lookup as expressions in to 
> 1.10 
> >> >>>>>>> instead of 1.11? 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> - Anssi 
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:46 AM, Josh Smeaton 
> >> >>>>>>> <josh.s...@gmail.com> 
> >> >>>>>>> wrote: 
> >> >>>>>>>> 1. Lookups should become Expressions, just as Transforms have 
> >> >>>>>>>> become 
> >> >>>>>>>> Expressions. This will let us process Lookup arguments as 
> >> >>>>>>>> Expressions 
> >> >>>>>>>> all 
> >> >>>>>>>> the way the way through. I think this should be a major goal 
> for 
> >> >>>>>>>> version 
> >> >>>>>>>> 1.11. 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> 2. Chaining transforms is now possible since they are just 
> Func 
> >> >>>>>>>> expressions. 
> >> >>>>>>>> Func(Func(Func('field_name'))) is no issue. 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> 3. Sounds like an OK idea, but I haven't looked into the 
> details 
> >> >>>>>>>> enough 
> >> >>>>>>>> to 
> >> >>>>>>>> really comment. I do think we should create the correct form 
> as 
> >> >>>>>>>> early 
> >> >>>>>>>> as 
> >> >>>>>>>> possible (parsing into a chain of Lookup/Transform 
> expressions) 
> >> >>>>>>>> so 
> >> >>>>>>>> we 
> >> >>>>>>>> don't 
> >> >>>>>>>> have to do parsing in multiple places. The entry points to 
> >> >>>>>>>> .filter() 
> >> >>>>>>>> and 
> >> >>>>>>>> .exclude(), or their direct counterparts in sql.query sound 
> >> >>>>>>>> ideal. 
> >> >>>>>>>> Anssi has 
> >> >>>>>>>> mentioned elsewhere that WhereNode's should only contain fully 
> >> >>>>>>>> resolved 
> >> >>>>>>>> expressions, so resolving will need to be done directly after 
> >> >>>>>>>> parsing 
> >> >>>>>>>> (or 
> >> >>>>>>>> during). 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> Part 1 above can be started now if you have the time or 
> interest. 
> >> >>>>>>>> We 
> >> >>>>>>>> can 
> >> >>>>>>>> nail down the particulars of part 3 while we're solving part 
> 1. 
> >> >>>>>>>> Part 1 
> >> >>>>>>>> may 
> >> >>>>>>>> drive some of part 3. 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 04:49:54 UTC+10, Alexey 
> Zankevich 
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Here is a list of issues to solve to support explicit 
> transforms 
> >> >>>>>>>>> and 
> >> >>>>>>>>> lookups by filter (and exclude) methods. 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 1. Make Lookup.__init__ signature to support initialization 
> with 
> >> >>>>>>>>> F 
> >> >>>>>>>>> objects 
> >> >>>>>>>>> or string path (e.g. GreaterThan(F('user__id'), 10) or 
> >> >>>>>>>>> GreaterThan('user__id', 10)), not sure it's possible to use 
> >> >>>>>>>>> simultaneously 
> >> >>>>>>>>> with the current approach with lhs, rhs initialization (even 
> >> >>>>>>>>> with 
> >> >>>>>>>>> moving it 
> >> >>>>>>>>> to a separate class method, e.g Lookup.build(lhs, rhs)), so I 
> >> >>>>>>>>> assume 
> >> >>>>>>>>> creating so-called util classes which will delegate 
> SQL-related 
> >> >>>>>>>>> functionality to existing Lookup classes. 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 2. Chain transforms by passing them as argument: 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Lower(Unaccent(F('user__name))) 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 3. Decide if Q objects shall support explicit 
> lookups/transforms 
> >> >>>>>>>>> as 
> >> >>>>>>>>> argument as well - it's a kind of logical step, as without Q 
> >> >>>>>>>>> objects 
> >> >>>>>>>>> it will 
> >> >>>>>>>>> not be possible to perform complicated conditions (AND, OR, 
> >> >>>>>>>>> NOT). 
> >> >>>>>>>>> In that case lookup/transform parsing should be moved from 
> >> >>>>>>>>> QuerySet 
> >> >>>>>>>>> object 
> >> >>>>>>>>> to Q object - filter will take already parsed lookup tree. 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Example: 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Q(user__name__lower__unaccent__icontains='Bob') will 
> internally 
> >> >>>>>>>>> parse 
> >> >>>>>>>>> it 
> >> >>>>>>>>> and build next structure: 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Q(Icontains(Lower(Unaccent(F('user__name')))), 'Bob') 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:18:26 PM UTC+3, Alexey 
> Zankevich 
> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> This topic is related to the current ORM query syntax with 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> underscores. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> There are lots of arguing related to it, anyway it has pros 
> and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> cons. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Let's take a concrete example of querying a model: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> GameSession.objects.filter(user__profile__last_login_date__gte=yesterday) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Pros: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 1. The syntax is easy to understand 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Can be extended with custom transforms and lookups 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> However, there are several cons: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Long strings is hard to read, especially if we have 
> fields 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> with 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> underscores. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> It's really easy to make a mistake by missing one: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> GameSession.objects.filter(user_profile__last_login_date__gte=yesterday) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Not easy to catch missing underscore between user and 
> profile, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> is 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> it? 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Even 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> though, it's not easy to say whether it should be 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "user_profile" 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> attribute or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> user.profile foreign key. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Query strings can't be reused, thus the approach violates 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> DRY 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> principle. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> For example, we need to order results by last_login_date: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> GameSession.objects.filter(user__profile__last_login_date__gte=yesterday) \ 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> .order_by('user__profile__last_login_date') 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> We can't keep user__profile_login_date as a variable as in 
> the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> first 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> part 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> of the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> expression we use a keyword argument, meanwhile in the 
> second 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> part - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> just 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> a 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> string. And thus we just have to type query path twice. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Lookup names not natural to Python language and require 
> to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> be 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> remembered or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> looked up in documentation. For example, "__gte" or "__lte" 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> lookups 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> tend 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to be 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> confused with "ge" and "le" due to similarity to methods 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "__ge__" 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "__le__". 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 4. Lookup keywords limited to a single argument only, very 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> inconvenient 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> when 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> necessary to filter objects by range. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I was thinking a lot trying to solve those issues, keeping 
> in 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> mind 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Django 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> approaches. Finally I came up with solution to extend Q 
> objects 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> with 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> dot 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> expression syntax: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GameSession.objecs.filter(Q.user.profile.last_login_date 
> >= 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Q is a factory instance for old-style Q objects. Accessing 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> attribute 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> by 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> dot 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> returns a child factory, calling factory will instantiate 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> old-style Q 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> object. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <QFactory object at 0x7f407298ee10> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q.user.profile 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <QFactory object at 0x7f40765da310> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q(user__name='Bob') 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <Q: (AND: ('user__name', 'Bob'))> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> It overrides operators, so comparing factory with value 
> returns 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> a 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> related 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Q 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> object: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q.user.name == 'Bob' 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <Q: (AND: ('user__name', 'Bob'))> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Factory has several helper functions for lookups which 
> aren't 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> related 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> any 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Python operators directly: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q.user.name.icontains('Bob') 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <Q: (AND: ('user__name__icontains', 'Bob'))> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> And helper to get query path as string, which requred by 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> order_by 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> select_related queryset methods: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q.user.profile.last_login_date.get_path() 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 'user__profile__last_login_date' 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> You can check implementation and more examples here 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Nepherhotep/django-orm-sugar 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> How it solves issues: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> #1. Dots hard to confuse with underscores 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> #2. Query paths can be reused: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> factory = Q.user.profile.last_login_date 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> query = GameSession.objects.filter(factory >= yesterday) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> query = query.order_by(factory.get_path()) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> #3. Not neccessary to remember most of lookup names and use 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> comparison 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> operators 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> instead. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> #4. Possible to use multiple keyword arguments: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q.user.profile.last_login_date.in_range(from_date, 
> to_date) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <Q: (AND: ('user__profile__last_login_date__lte', 
> from_date), 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> ('user__profile__last_login_date__gte', to_date))> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> This approach looked the best for me due to several reasons: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 1. It's explicit - it doesn't do anything but generating 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> appropriate 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Q 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> object. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> The result of comparison can be saved as Q object variable. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 2. It's short - variants with using model for that will look 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> much 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> longer, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> when 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> joining two or more filters: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GameSession.objects.user.profile_last_login_date >= 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> # 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> awkward 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Implementation will not require to change querset manager 
> or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> model 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> classes 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 4. Will still allow to use filters and Q class in the old 
> way: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> q = Q(user__profile__last_login_date__gte=yesterday) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> GameSession.objects.filter(user__profile__last_login_date__gte=yesterday) 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it as a part of Django ORM syntax and it 
> will 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> not be 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> hard to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> do, especially taking into account the library is already 
> done 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> working. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I need your thought about the idea in general, as 
> well 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> as 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> about 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> particular things like chosen method names - "get_path", 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "in_range" 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> etc. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> As next step I can create a ticket in the issue tracker, or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> prepare 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> DEP 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> first. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> In latter case I need to find a shepherd to work with. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Alexey 
> >> >>>>>>>> 
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