+1 Tom’s proposal and Jacob’s comments.
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Aymeric.
> On 03 Oct 2016, at 16:39, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <ja...@jacobian.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom -
>
> Thanks for putting this together! Overall, +1 from me as well: I've taught
> Django to a bunch of beginners, and URLs are one of the major pain points.
> I'd love to make them easier, and your proposal looks pretty dang great.
>
> Some specific feedback:
>
> 1. I'm not too thrilled on the "is this a regex or not?" auto-detection: my
> experience has been that every time we try to be clever like that, we end up
> regretting it down the line. "Explicit is better than implicit", and all
> that. It's more awkward, but I'd prefer different calls/constructors for
> URLs. I think this also lets us set up a better upgrade/transition path. My
> suggestion is that we move towards `url()` giving "new style" patterns, and
> have another helper ("url_regex"? "urlr"?) that provides regex resolving. We
> could also take this opportunity to simplify import paths, so:
>
> - `from django.urls import url` <--- new-style resolver
> - `from django.urls import url_regex` <--- old-style resolver
> - `from django.conf.urls import url` <--- old-style resolver, with
> PendingDeprecation/DeprecationWarning, then deleted - as per normal upgrade
> path.
>
> 2. Huge +1 on copying Flask's converters and API. Flask nailed the routing
> syntax, no need to reinvent the wheel!
>
> 3. Documentation: I suggest introducing the new syntax immediately in all the
> documentation. It's better for like 90% of the cases.
>
> Thanks again, I'm stoked to see some motion here.
>
> Jacob
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Tom Christie <christie....@gmail.com
> <mailto:christie....@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I wanted to push forward the consideration of introducing a simpler URLs
> syntax, plus support for URL parameter type conversion.
>
> A pre-proposal is available here:
> https://gist.github.com/tomchristie/cb388f0f6a0dec931c611775f32c5f98
> <https://gist.github.com/tomchristie/cb388f0f6a0dec931c611775f32c5f98>
>
> At this point I'm seeking feedback, before hopefully iterating on the
> proposal, and making a formal submission.
>
> I'm not making any assumptions right now about where this might get too, or
> who'd be involved if it does make it to the DEP stage, and would very much
> welcome outside involvement. I'm also aware that while there's been some
> positive reception, it's not yet clear if we'll reach a consensus on
> inclusion in core.
>
> Personally I'm very firmly +1 on this, as I feel that the existing syntax is
> a rather glaring and unnecessary pain point.
>
> Thanks to everyone who's started to kick this off, in particular Emil
> Stenström for raising the original thread, and Sjoerd Job Postmus for their
> work on the Django Simple URL
> <https://github.com/sjoerdjob/django-simple-url> package.
>
> - Tom
>
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