> Do we think async is worth going after? I think this is hugely important. Django's advantage in the field currently is in it's developer productivity and maintainability. As frameworks based on Node or on languages with co-operative concurrency built-in continue to mature it's going to face more of a squeeze there, while being less resource efficient than many alternatives.
Although performance characteristics are often over-stated or over-valued, it's still a substantive point against a team choosing Django in some circumstances. It's particularly relevant in super successful high-scale cases, and I want Django to continue to be a great choice both for single person building out an MVP on a couple of instances, all the way up to large teams working on massive systems, with many running services. If we don't attempt to tackle this I think we may end up very slowly starting to write Django out as a contender for some teams. > Can we do this in a reasonable timeframe? If not, is there a way around that? I can't speak to the ORM work, as I don't know the internals well enough, but I think how everything else is proposed makes sense. The minimal first step, of tackling the request/response path is already potentially valuable for any teams that include an API gateway as one of their services - being able to have a Django-based app that can make non-blocking requests out to other services would immediately benefit a decent chunk of real-world use cases. > How should we fund this? It's a pretty serious amount of funding you'd want to see, so I guess ideally not as a single backer. A joint combination of Mozilla's MOSS program, PSF grant, and corporate sponsorships all orchestrated together? (Waves hands magically) Wrt. corporate sponsorships I think we might well want to set realistic expectations about how much developer time money actually buys, and a set a decently high minimum tier. What I think works especially well is tying in contributions, so. eg. an agreed-in-principle grant that's conditional on also achieving a certain amount of corporate sponsorships might be a great motivator for companies to make a shared, collaborative investment. ?? Thanks Andrew - *really* exciting proposal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/72d08b8d-06e8-4447-8017-9f3629b43656%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
