> So you want to add it to Django's install_requires even though it won't 
be necessary if SQLite isn't used?

That's my understanding and what I was advocating for.

Simon

Le samedi 3 novembre 2018 10:09:55 UTC-4, Tim Graham a écrit :
>
> So you want to add it to Django's install_requires even though it won't be 
> necessary if SQLite isn't used? It seems okay to me. It's an extra 40k or 
> so of disk space but that's not much compared to all the extra stuff Django 
> comes with that every Django project doesn't necessarily use. We also have 
> the requires_sqlparse_for_splitting feature flag which we could remove if 
> we can assume sqlparse is installed.
>
> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 4:59:54 AM UTC-4, Adam Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I'm fine with adding it as a dependency, my experience has been that it's 
>> a stable, well-maintained package over the past few years I've used it.
>>
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 05:00, charettes <chare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After a bit of work to minimize the cases where sqlparse would be a 
>>> required at runtime for SQLite to AddConstraint/RemoveConstraint operations 
>>> [0] I came to the conclusion that it would make more sense to make sqlparse 
>>> an hard dependency of Django 2.2.
>>>
>>> The two reasons backing this conclusions are
>>>
>>> 1. Given we run the suite with sqlparse installed on CI it will be 
>>> really hard to prevent inadvertently breaking the promise of a soft 
>>> dependency on sqlparse for Meta.constraints only. I guess we could have 
>>> a daily CI job but that would quickly get out of hand once we have to 
>>> perform backport and such.
>>>
>>> 2. There's a few instances of fragile regex parsing that could be made 
>>> more reliable if sqlparse was an hard dependency for SQLite. Two 
>>> examples are
>>>  - 
>>> https://github.com/django/django/blob/f892781b957f674806a227a10c58768f66a48c07/django/db/backends/sqlite3/introspection.py#L90-L146
>>>  - 
>>> https://github.com/django/django/blob/f892781b957f674806a227a10c58768f66a48c07/django/db/backends/sqlite3/schema.py#L91-L127
>>>
>>> Given the transition to require pytz in Django 1.11 went smoothly and 
>>> our needs for sqlparse are similar to provide a solid experience on SQLite 
>>> I'd be +1 on requiring it from Django 2.2 to a point where the lowest 
>>> version of SQLite we support has better introspection capabilities.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> [0] https://github.com/django/django/pull/10572
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 10 octobre 2018 14:53:53 UTC-4, Tim Graham a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> sqlparse is already installed as part of Django's tests. The question 
>>>> is whether sqlparse should be mandatory for SQLite users (i.e. when 
>>>> getting 
>>>> started with a new project an error message will say, "You must install 
>>>> sqlparse to use SQLite" (I don't think there's a way to install it 
>>>> automatically unless we install it for all users, regardless of database) 
>>>> or if we should try to make it optional and only raise an error if a 
>>>> project's migrations require it.
>>>>
>>>> The question is "what percentage of SQLite projects are going to end up 
>>>> needing sqlparse based on their migrations? If it's high enough, it might 
>>>> make for a better user experience to have users install it when they're 
>>>> getting started instead of a lazy error when get_constraints() is 
>>>> called."
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 3:22:32 AM UTC-4, Andrew Godwin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding sqlparse into the introspection code for SQLite specifically 
>>>>> means it's going to be a runtime dependency for anything to do with 
>>>>> migrations.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm alright having that be the case, but I do think we should make 
>>>>> sure the tests run with SQLite as otherwise a large section of the most 
>>>>> complicated code in migrations won't be tested properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018, 00:59 Ian Foote, <i...@feete.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On my pull request (https://github.com/django/django/pull/10406) 
>>>>>> refactoring how Django creates database constraints I introduced a 
>>>>>> dependency on sqlparse in the sqlite introspection code. This allows 
>>>>>> Django 
>>>>>> to correctly read information about constraints on sqlite, particularly 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When reviewing (
>>>>>> https://github.com/django/django/pull/10406#issuecomment-424542217) 
>>>>>> Tim Graham raised the question of whether we should make sqlparse a 
>>>>>> mandatory requirement for the sqlite tests or if we should skip those 
>>>>>> tests 
>>>>>> that require it. In later discussion (
>>>>>> https://github.com/django/django/pull/10406#issuecomment-427362983), 
>>>>>> Tim raised the point that the introspection code is used by migrations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not clear myself what the best route forwards here is, so I'm 
>>>>>> bringing it to Django Developers for discussion (as Tim suggested). 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ian
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