Hi Aymeric,

On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 12:39:17 PM UTC+1 Aymeric Augustin wrote:

> I'm not trying to disagree for the sake of disagreement; I'm just trying 
> to bring some contextual awareness and avoid  the "core devs say 
> ATOMIC_REQUESTS is bad" effect. I hope we can agree on this?
>

Absolutely, my comment was mostly there to show that not all core devs 
agree that ATOMIC_REQUESTS is something that should be always enabled. As 
usual it depends on your project, database etc… I should have added more 
context to that, thanks for pointing it out.
   

> Finally — yes, I know that my implementation of this feature is a wormhole 
> across layers. I won't even try to justify it. I wish we had something 
> better but we haven't found that yet.
>

I still think it is good (in the sense that we worked with what we had 
available). Sure the layering isn't exactly nice, but we have worse things 
in Django's codebase :) I even have a possible fix for that, but it 
requires us to rewrite middlewares again :/  

Cheers,
Florian

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