#21454: Ignoring certain fields on INSERT and UPDATE queries
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     Reporter:  mpessas              |                    Owner:  mpessas
         Type:  New feature          |                   Status:  assigned
    Component:  Database layer       |                  Version:  master
  (models, ORM)                      |               Resolution:
     Severity:  Normal               |             Triage Stage:
     Keywords:                       |  Unreviewed
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by mpessas):

 * status:  new => assigned
 * needs_docs:   => 0
 * owner:  nobody => mpessas
 * needs_tests:   => 0
 * needs_better_patch:   => 0


Comment:

 Some initial comments can be found at
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-developers/rwP2DcPYHEs.

 I agree with making `use_on_insert` and `use_on_update` instance variables
 instead, but my main concern is that this probably makes the variables as
 important as the rest of the aguments the field can take. However, I
 suppose most people should stay away from them. That is why I wanted to
 make them a bit more internal to the field class. But I guess this is
 actually a matter of how you document things. If the patch is merged,
 should there be documentation in the Field reference page?

 By the way, there is one thing I forgot to mention in my initial email,
 that since the value of a field is not created from within django, the
 object created or updated will not have the database-assigned value. For
 instance, if there is a `created` field that takes its value from the
 database, django will know that the value of the field is `None` and you
 will need to read the model instance again to fetch the correct values.
 But I am sure that people who need this would not mind. In any case, this
 is another reason why I think this should be more of an internal thing (at
 least as far as documentation is concerned).

 Regarding `save`, yes this is a way to achieve a similar effect now, but
 only for UPDATEs.

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