#21454: Ignoring certain fields on INSERT and UPDATE queries
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     Reporter:  mpessas              |                    Owner:  mpessas
         Type:  New feature          |                   Status:  assigned
    Component:  Database layer       |                  Version:  master
  (models, ORM)                      |               Resolution:
     Severity:  Normal               |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
     Keywords:                       |      Needs documentation:  0
    Has patch:  1                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |
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Comment (by mpessas):

 Replying to [comment:2 akaariai]:
 > It would be really useful to do autorefresh after save. Access to
 database set values could also be done with RETURNING, but for first
 implementation just executing a query from .save() would be enough.

 I would rather avoid the extra query to re-read the db-default values; it
 would have a significant impact on performance, when one of the goals was
 to improve performance in the first place.

 Regarding the `RETURNING` clause, it is not part of the SQL standard AFAIK
 (see http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/sql-update.html#AEN76402)
 and that's the reason I avoided it. That said, can we have backend-
 specific codepaths in Django? That is, use the `RETURNING` clause, when
 available, and fallback to a re-read query otherwise.

 In any case, I suppose we should allow the developer to skip the re-read
 query, if using the `RETURNING` clause is not possible. How does that
 sound?

 >
 > Validation code is needed to check that primary keys aren't
 use_on_insert/use_on_update.
 >

 Done at
 
https://github.com/mpessas/django/commit/eda1b860311496d37bd6609b710f69fa4ae6fc41.

 > Should there be a way to override the database assignment? How about
 .update(modified_field=somevalue)? The simplest solution seems to be to
 not allow override in .save(), but allow .update() of db default fields

 Yes, that was my idea as well. The `.update()` method works as expected
 (see
 
https://github.com/mpessas/django/commit/4fcfed999e82b08182b6c614553e7d707fdf4a6d).

 >
 > Fixtures loading should probably force-insert/update the fixture's
 value, not use database default. This is doable by checking that if
 raw=True in save, then insert everything as-is and don't do auto-update.
 >

 Fixed at
 
https://github.com/mpessas/django/commit/7540af0471346d62e60f1c61c27638b3233d4d5b.
 However, I am not familiar with the process and as a result confident with
 the commit; are we sure that the `raw` flag is used only for fixture
 loading? Should I research a bit more?

 > In addition, you will need also ModelForms support.
 >

 I suppose you mean that the fields should be excluded by default in
 ModelForms.

 I can think of three ways to do it:

 - Do it in `fields_for_model`, that is, exclude all
 `use_on_insert`/`use_on_update` fields, unless they are explicitly
 included in the `fields` variable of the form. The big issue here is that
 you cannot tell, whether the form will be used to ''create'' or ''update''
 a row in order to handle `use_on_insert` and `use_on_update` fields
 differently; you have to exclude both. See commit
 
https://github.com/mpessas/django/commit/3d298a6f269e28aa77e290aa4299cb17e3a6185b.
 - Do it in the form's initializer. In this case, you do have access to the
 `instance` variable; thus, you can tell whether the form is going to
 ''create'' or ''update'' a row. But this would not be consistent; the
 developer would get a different set of fields in the two cases. Moreover,
 the field selection process is part of the metaclass; as a result, the
 code to exclude the db-default fields belongs to the metaclass as well.
 - Do it in the `__call__` method of the metaclass. This keeps all field-
 selection code in the metaclass, but still has the problem of consistency.

 I am not sure which choice is best. The first one seems simpler to me
 (from the point of view of the user of a ModelForm), since it avoids the
 inconsistency issue (which would also leak to templates etc). Any opinions
 here?

 > In general I see this feature as useful when you need it, so marking as
 accepted.

 Thanks!

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