On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < [email protected]> wrote:
> Keith makes a very good point. > > So how about this, a lot of us write blogs (or are planning to) about > various things we've discovered, and these usually have a lot of effort put > into them. > > Whenever someone does a blog update, this information should also be placed > somewhere in the current wiki. Just be sure not to post it until it's your > absolute final revision (otherwise you gotta keep updating it in two > places). > > Or at the very least, we should create a wiki page called "UserBlogs" or > something like that, and add your link along with a brief description (no > more than 1 sentence long - same restrictions as djangosnippets). > Obviously, this does have the risk that blog entries may die/disappear, and someone would need to go through and copy/paste/format stuff, but it's a start, at least. > > Once it grows, we worry about the interface later. > > Cal > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Venkatraman S <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Tom Evans <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thinking 'but we can make our own Q&A site' is foolish. See Jeff >> >> Attwood's post on the same subject: >> > >> > I wouldnt do this and am in no way going to be doing this. Instead, i am >> > suggesting an ArticleBase. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> OP: >> >> Noble aims. How do you aim to achieve 'highly curated' articles and >> >> snippets? >> >> One of the principle problems with djangosnippets is that the snippets >> >> often tend to work only at the version of django the user developed >> >> them at. >> >> Do you intend to revalidate every article and snippet on every django >> >> release? >> >> How will you do that, will each snippet/article be required to have >> >> testcases? >> >> Who will write the testcases? >> >> Will you validate against latest current release, or a variety of >> >> releases? >> > >> > All the release information and etc etc will be mentioned clearly. What >> is >> > supported and what not. >> > I will try to write up a sample article on this and share to give you a >> > flavour of what i have in mind. >> > >> > Who will write? Good q - anyone. But for it to appear in the article >> base, >> > it has to be approved - the article should >> > contain all the relevant information. Think in terms of wikibase for >> django >> > tips/tricks/articles. ONE place. >> > >> > Though, I would still like this to be part of the djangoproject article >> > storehouse than we hosting this independently. >> >> Elaborating on Tom's comments, I would point out the following: >> >> * We already have a wiki that supports prose text, code snippets, >> search and versioning. >> * We already have documentation, which is curated, and also has an >> open policy of accepting new contributions. >> >> This isn't a technical problem. It's a resource problem. Writing good >> documentation is hard. This is a volunteer project, so we can't compel >> anyone to curate anything (or do anything else for that matter). >> >> I put it to you that developing an ArticleBase would be putting the >> cart before the horse. The articles need to come *first*, and they >> could be happily hosted on the wiki. Developing a massive warehouse >> before you have something to put in it is getting the priorities >> completely bass ackwards. >> >> Once there's a solid collection of articles, and evidence that the >> wiki isn't providing all the features that are needed, *then* it's >> worth developing an improved document store. And *if* we get to that >> point, you can count on the support of the core team and the DSF to >> get you whatever resources you need. >> >> So -- my humble suggestion: If you think there is a need for improving >> Django documentation, I wholeheartedly agree. There's plenty of room >> for improvement in Django's docs. But the place to start isn't to >> write a massive technical site to host new documentation. You start by >> *writing documentation*. >> >> Yours, >> Russ Magee %-) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.

