On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Keith makes a very good point.
>
> So how about this, a lot of us write blogs (or are planning to) about
> various things we've discovered, and these usually have a lot of effort put
> into them.
>
> Whenever someone does a blog update, this information should also be placed
> somewhere in the current wiki. Just be sure not to post it until it's your
> absolute final revision (otherwise you gotta keep updating it in two
> places).
>
> Or at the very least, we should create a wiki page called "UserBlogs" or
> something like that, and add your link along with a brief description (no
> more than 1 sentence long - same restrictions as djangosnippets).
>

Obviously, this does have the risk that blog entries may die/disappear, and
someone would need to go through and copy/paste/format stuff, but it's a
start, at least.


>
> Once it grows, we worry about the interface later.
>
> Cal
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Russell Keith-Magee <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Venkatraman S <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Tom Evans <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thinking 'but we can make our own Q&A site' is foolish. See Jeff
>> >> Attwood's post on the same subject:
>> >
>> > I wouldnt do this and am in no way going to be doing this. Instead, i am
>> > suggesting an ArticleBase.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> OP:
>> >> Noble aims. How do you aim to achieve 'highly curated' articles and
>> >> snippets?
>> >> One of the principle problems with djangosnippets is that the snippets
>> >> often tend to work only at the version of django the user developed
>> >> them at.
>> >> Do you intend to revalidate every article and snippet on every django
>> >> release?
>> >> How will you do that, will each snippet/article be required to have
>> >> testcases?
>> >> Who will write the testcases?
>> >> Will you validate against latest current release, or a variety of
>> >> releases?
>> >
>> > All the release information and etc etc will be mentioned clearly. What
>> is
>> > supported and what not.
>> > I will try to write up a sample article on this and share to give you a
>> > flavour of what i have in mind.
>> >
>> > Who will write? Good q - anyone. But for it to appear in the article
>> base,
>> > it has to be approved - the article should
>> > contain all the relevant information. Think in terms of wikibase for
>> django
>> > tips/tricks/articles. ONE place.
>> >
>> > Though, I would still like this to be part of the djangoproject article
>> > storehouse than we hosting this independently.
>>
>> Elaborating on Tom's comments, I would point out the following:
>>
>>  * We already have a wiki that supports prose text, code snippets,
>> search and versioning.
>>  * We already have documentation, which is curated, and also has an
>> open policy of accepting new contributions.
>>
>> This isn't a technical problem. It's a resource problem. Writing good
>> documentation is hard. This is a volunteer project, so we can't compel
>> anyone to curate anything (or do anything else for that matter).
>>
>> I put it to you that developing an ArticleBase would be putting the
>> cart before the horse. The articles need to come *first*, and they
>> could be happily hosted on the wiki. Developing a massive warehouse
>> before you have something to put in it is getting the priorities
>> completely bass ackwards.
>>
>> Once there's a solid collection of articles, and evidence that the
>> wiki isn't providing all the features that are needed, *then* it's
>> worth developing an improved document store. And *if* we get to that
>> point, you can count on the support of the core team and the DSF to
>> get you whatever resources you need.
>>
>> So -- my humble suggestion: If you think there is a need for improving
>> Django documentation, I wholeheartedly agree. There's plenty of room
>> for improvement in Django's docs. But the place to start isn't to
>> write a massive technical site to host new documentation. You start by
>> *writing documentation*.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Russ Magee %-)
>>
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