Ok, everything went smoothly and beautifully as promised. I got successful 
install messages for pip, distribute, virtualenv and django. So first, 
thank you both very much. 

However, I seem to be stuck again. I am not sure how to get from my new 
virtualenv to django, and windows seems just as confused. When I tried 
startproject, windows suddenly wanted to know if I wanted to keep using 
python to open .py files, or use notepad or some other program? I said 
python, and then it hiccuped, like it was restarting Explorer, and the 
command line went back to the prompt with no evidence it executed the 
startproject command. I looked in the directory, but saw nothing to 
indicate there was a project started. Of course, never having worked with 
either django or virtualenv before, I could have missed it. So I tried 
again.

As before, a dialog window opened asking me what program I wanted to use. 
While I was taking a screenshot to save for these notes, the dialog went 
away and the cmd line reported back that access was denied. 

Then I tried get_version and was told there was no module named django, 
even though just a few lines earlier I was told django was successfully 
installed.

Here is that last portion from my command line window:

*C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>project_sl1\Scripts\activate*

*(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>pip install django*

*Downloading/unpacking django*

*  Downloading Django-1.6.1.tar.gz (6.6MB): 6.6MB downloaded*

*  Running setup.py egg_info for package django*

*    warning: no previously-included files matching '__pycache__' found *

*under dir*

*ectory '*'*

*    warning: no previously-included files matching '*.py[co]' found *

*under direct*

*ory '*'*

*Installing collected packages: django*

*  Running setup.py install for django*

*    warning: no previously-included files matching '__pycache__' found *

*under dir*

*ectory '*'*

*    warning: no previously-included files matching '*.py[co]' found *

*under direct*

*ory '*'*

*Successfully installed django*

*Cleaning up...*


*(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>django-admin.py *


*startproject*

* project_sl1*


*(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>django-admin.py *


*startproject*

* project_sl1*

*Access is denied.*


*(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>*

Just to be clear, I do want to get past this but I also want to understand 
what is going on, so if you can do both, that would be great. Do I need to 
change directories? Try opening a django project thrui the django gui? 
Where / how would I do that? Everything I have done so far has been thru 
the windows command line. 
Thanx.
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On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:48:22 AM UTC-6, Malik Rumi wrote:
>
>  Boy, the speedy responses on this thread are great! I can't wait to get 
> home from work so I can put this advice into practice. And now you know 
> what I want for Christmas 😄 - a working installation of django and python 
> to play with. 
>  ------------------------------
> From: Tom Lockhart <[email protected]>
> Sent: ‎12/‎24/‎2013 9:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Can't Install on Windows 8.1
>
>
>  On 2013-12-24, at 6:56 AM, Malik Rumi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Thank you. One more question before I dive in: I already have python 
> installed. Are you suggesting I remove it and start over?
>
>
> No. What you will find is that virtualenv will pick up whatever python it 
> finds and package it in a new self-contained area. At that point you will 
> have full control over what additional things get installed. But it needs a 
> python installation somewhere else to get started.
>
> If you have put a bunch of packages into your native python installation 
> and are not sure what you have, you may want to re-install just to get a 
> clean basic installation. But I haven't had to do that and would not bother 
> unless you see other issues.
>
> hth
>
>                     - Tom
>
>  
> On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:04:08 AM UTC-6, Timothy W. Cook wrote: 
>>
>>   Since it appears that you are not too familiar with Python, this may 
>> help:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_W02OwHa38
>>
>> Using a virtual environment and pip will a long way to solving many of 
>> your issues.   It is considered best practice 'for a reason'. 
>>
>> https://zignar.net/2012/06/17/install-python-on-windows/
>>
>> Then, install django and other requirements inside your virtualenv.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Malik Rumi <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Hello. This is my first post. The attached Word document tracks 
>>> everything I have done this morning to get this to work.  
>>>
>>> Your insights, guidance, and assistance is greatly appreciated. 
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