It has been 4 hours so just so you don't think you are being ignored.  :-)

Basically, this is why I haven't used Windows since Win98.  It wants to
take control of everything and guess at what I want.  I wish you luck in
solving your Windows issues.

It is okay for end-user apps like running a browser but I would never use
it for development.  I know that there are pepople here taht do and maybe
they can help.

Cheers,
Tim



On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Malik Rumi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, everything went smoothly and beautifully as promised. I got successful
> install messages for pip, distribute, virtualenv and django. So first,
> thank you both very much.
>
> However, I seem to be stuck again. I am not sure how to get from my new
> virtualenv to django, and windows seems just as confused. When I tried
> startproject, windows suddenly wanted to know if I wanted to keep using
> python to open .py files, or use notepad or some other program? I said
> python, and then it hiccuped, like it was restarting Explorer, and the
> command line went back to the prompt with no evidence it executed the
> startproject command. I looked in the directory, but saw nothing to
> indicate there was a project started. Of course, never having worked with
> either django or virtualenv before, I could have missed it. So I tried
> again.
>
>  As before, a dialog window opened asking me what program I wanted to
> use. While I was taking a screenshot to save for these notes, the dialog
> went away and the cmd line reported back that access was denied.
>
> Then I tried get_version and was told there was no module named django,
> even though just a few lines earlier I was told django was successfully
> installed.
>
> Here is that last portion from my command line window:
>
> *C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>project_sl1\Scripts\activate*
>
> *(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>pip install django*
>
> *Downloading/unpacking django*
>
> *  Downloading Django-1.6.1.tar.gz (6.6MB): 6.6MB downloaded*
>
> *  Running setup.py egg_info for package django*
>
> *    warning: no previously-included files matching '__pycache__' found *
>
> *under dir*
>
> *ectory '*'*
>
> *    warning: no previously-included files matching '*.py[co]' found *
>
> *under direct*
>
> *ory '*'*
>
> *Installing collected packages: django*
>
> *  Running setup.py install for django*
>
> *    warning: no previously-included files matching '__pycache__' found *
>
> *under dir*
>
> *ectory '*'*
>
> *    warning: no previously-included files matching '*.py[co]' found *
>
> *under direct*
>
> *ory '*'*
>
> *Successfully installed django*
>
> *Cleaning up...*
>
>
> *(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>django-admin.py *
>
>
> *startproject*
>
> * project_sl1*
>
>
> *(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>django-admin.py *
>
>
> *startproject*
>
> * project_sl1*
>
> *Access is denied.*
>
>
> *(project_sl1) C:\Program Files\Ampps\python\Scripts>*
>
> Just to be clear, I do want to get past this but I also want to understand
> what is going on, so if you can do both, that would be great. Do I need to
> change directories? Try opening a django project thrui the django gui?
> Where / how would I do that? Everything I have done so far has been thru
> the windows command line.
> Thanx.
> - -
>
> On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:48:22 AM UTC-6, Malik Rumi wrote:
>>
>>  Boy, the speedy responses on this thread are great! I can't wait to get
>> home from work so I can put this advice into practice. And now you know
>> what I want for Christmas 😄 - a working installation of django and python
>> to play with.
>>  ------------------------------
>> From: Tom Lockhart <[email protected]>
>> Sent: ‎12/‎24/‎2013 9:15 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Can't Install on Windows 8.1
>>
>>
>>  On 2013-12-24, at 6:56 AM, Malik Rumi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  Thank you. One more question before I dive in: I already have python
>> installed. Are you suggesting I remove it and start over?
>>
>>
>> No. What you will find is that virtualenv will pick up whatever python it
>> finds and package it in a new self-contained area. At that point you will
>> have full control over what additional things get installed. But it needs a
>> python installation somewhere else to get started.
>>
>> If you have put a bunch of packages into your native python installation
>> and are not sure what you have, you may want to re-install just to get a
>> clean basic installation. But I haven't had to do that and would not bother
>> unless you see other issues.
>>
>> hth
>>
>>                     - Tom
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:04:08 AM UTC-6, Timothy W. Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>   Since it appears that you are not too familiar with Python, this may
>>> help:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_W02OwHa38
>>>
>>> Using a virtual environment and pip will a long way to solving many of
>>> your issues.   It is considered best practice 'for a reason'.
>>>
>>> https://zignar.net/2012/06/17/install-python-on-windows/
>>>
>>> Then, install django and other requirements inside your virtualenv.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Malik Rumi <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello. This is my first post. The attached Word document tracks
>>>> everything I have done this morning to get this to work.
>>>>
>>>> Your insights, guidance, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
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