On Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:59 PM [GMT+1=CET], Tim Draegen wrote:

> Just caught up to this thread.  There is work underway to supply
> patches to mailing list software so that mailing list operators can
> do a push-button upgrade to interoperate with DMARC.  
> 
> The amount of abuse that Yahoo sees is incredible, and so I'm not
> surprised that they finally had to shout out "enough!". 

Probably Yahoo would have had much less abuse had they implemented plain-SPF 
years ago. Until a few days ago, when Yahoo set up DMARC for YAHOO.COM, they 
were running naked without the protection of SPF - they were only using DKIM, 
which does not convey policy to the receiver, whereas plain-SPF does.

 

A lot of places are already rejecting email from Hotmail, Gmail, and other big 
players when a SPF check softfails on them, because 99.99999999% of those are 
phising/spam emails. You could not do the same with YAHOO.COM, as they did not 
have an SPF record up in DNS until a few days ago. So obviously 
phisers/spammers chose to feed on Yahoo, therefore Yahoo saw "an incredible 
amount of abuse".

 

A clear case of NIH syndrome, if I ever saw one.

 

And now that they finally publish SPF just to do DMARC, it seems they are not 
doing a good job either (nor following recommended practice of slowly scalating 
DMARC and checking the results in the process step by step).



Regards,

J.Gomez


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