On May 1, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Paul Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > As I understand it, and In my experience, p=reject on DKIM fail would cause a > mail delivery failure by google's servers. The fact that it ends up in your > spam folder rather than outright failure indicates to me that something other > than p=reject is responsible. > > Still, I would be interested to see the raw e-mail with all its headers, for > analysis, if you would please send it to me. > > Paul >
Based on circumstantial evidence I’m sure p=reject IS responsible. Every message from a Yahoo address to my lists go to my gmail SPAM folder, until I mark it as NOT SPAM. Subsequent messages from the same sender do not go to spam. My interpretation is that Google is not buying in to DMARC. As any responsible ISP will not also; the collateral damage of DMARC far outweighs any transient benefit (until spammers find a way around it). Google's own DMARC record is p=none. How is it that gmail has outstanding spam and spoofing protection without DMARC? Even though it is a free service, like Yahoo and AOL? Yahoo and AOL are failing to take responsibility for their own incompetence by placing the burden and cost of spoofing amelioration on others rather than spending the time and cost of creating a secure email environment. best regards, Larry Site manager, hmssurprise.org/portadmiral.org -- Larry Finch [email protected]
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