On 4/24/14 11:27 AM, Terry Zink wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that there are significant differences 
> between now and when ADSP was being investigated:
>
> 1. DKIM has much more prevalence in 2014 than it did in 2006, so requiring it 
> today isn't as big an obstacle.
ADSP is published by the same domains that are deploying DKIM, so the
overall prevalence of DKIM isn't a factor.
> 2. DKIM doesn't tie the d= signature field to the 5322.From: address. So, you 
> can DKIM-sign all you want and add authorized third party signatures all you 
> want. But if the From: address is different than what was authenticated, then 
> the end user won't understand the difference.
But ADSP does tie the d= signature to the 5322.From domain, by virtue of
the fact that only signatures where d= matches the 5322.From domain
match are considered "author domain" signatures.
>
> 3. DMARC is basically an anti-phishing technology, whereas while DKIM + ADSP 
> can do that, it doesn't do it as well. It's less intuitive to end users. And 
> because DMARC is better for anti-phishing, I would guess that's why it has 
> much better traction that ADSP ever could. Speaking for a large(ish) email 
> provider, DKIM is good but stopping phishing is better.

I'd like to understand why DMARC is "better for anti-phishing". But
let's not turn this into a DMARC-vs-ADSP argument. And in either case,
it shouldn't be intuitive to end users; it shouldn't even be visible to
them.

-Jim

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