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> From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email protected]>
> To: "Terry Zink" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], "Hector Santos" <[email protected]>, "DMARC Discuss"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:56:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] [dmarc-ietf] FYI: AOL Mail updates DMARC policy
> to 'reject'

> When we did ADSP (RFC 5617), the mailing list damage it could do was
> considered a showstopper for the vast majority of everyone participating,
> and advocates for "strong policy" were in the rough. I note from ADSP's
> author list that this included Yahoo!. The recommended practice was to split
> streams, so ADSP-protected mail was in one domain and user mail was in
> another. This is why domains like yahoo-inc.com , googlers.com ,
> paypal-inc.com , etc. began to appear.

> It was still true when we revised DKIM a couple of years later, because the
> concerns were unchanged yet yielded no relevant changes to DKIM itself, and
> the working group produced RFC 6377 to document the problem in more detail
> rather than take another run at trying to solve it.

> What's changed since then appears to be that some operators now believe the
> collateral damage is acceptable.

Finish the sentence... ;) 

"... in relation to the benefits while the ecosystem adapts" 
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