This is interesting, however it seems to me that DMARC should be more aware of 
it if used. 

I would suggest to sign with a sub domain. This would keep alignement, but 
would allow you to see which DKIM signature worked. Once both DKIM signature 
work, you would not need the delegated one.

I think DMARC should be made aware, so that it apply some constraints on when 
this signature is used/valid. May be only when there is a List-ID or List-Post 
header present, and the list has DKIM signed the whole message with its domain.

It would require MLM to not drop DKIM headers... Still some configuration on 
MLM side, but less in the way messages are modified

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Crocker" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:43:57 PM
Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00.txt

Folks,

I've been stewing on this idea for awhile and Murray pressed to get it
into writing, adding his usual, significant enhancements to the original
concept.  We've gone a couple of rounds before releasing it, but it's
still nascent enough to warrant gentle-but-firm handling.  In other
words, comments eagerly solicited.

d/


-------- Original Message --------

Name:           draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate
Revision:       00
Title:          Delegating DKIM Signing Authority
Document date:  2014-06-07
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          10
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00.txt
Status:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00


Abstract:
   DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) permits a handling agent to affix a
   digital signature to an email message, associating a domain name with
   that message using cryptographic signing techniques.  The digital
   signature typically covers most of a message's original portions,
   although the specific choices for content hashing are at the
   discretion of the signer.  DKIM signatures survive simply email
   relaying but typically are invalidated by processing through
   Mediators, such as mailing lists.  For such cases, the signer needs a
   way to indicate that a valid signature from some third party was
   anticipated, and constitutes an acceptable handling of the message.
   This enables a receiver to conclude that the content is legitimately
   from that original signer, even though its original signature no
   longer validates.

   This document defines a mechanism for improving the ability to assess
   DKIM validity for such messages.



-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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