On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Franck Martin <[email protected]>
wrote:

> This is interesting, however it seems to me that DMARC should be more
> aware of it if used.
>

Why?  This is a way of satisfying the alignment requirement on the DKIM
side.  DMARC doesn't need to know it's there.  The same is true of ATPS,
for example.


> I would suggest to sign with a sub domain. This would keep alignement, but
> would allow you to see which DKIM signature worked. Once both DKIM
> signature work, you would not need the delegated one.
>

What would make both start working again?  The problem we're trying to
solve here is that the originator signature is broken by the list, and
that's a (theoretically) immutable condition.


> I think DMARC should be made aware, so that it apply some constraints on
> when this signature is used/valid. May be only when there is a List-ID or
> List-Post header present, and the list has DKIM signed the whole message
> with its domain.
>

Anyone can add a List-ID or List-Post header field, so I don't think that
adds any additional security.


> It would require MLM to not drop DKIM headers... Still some configuration
> on MLM side, but less in the way messages are modified
>

That's a much less visible and thus probably more tolerable change for MLM
operators.

-MSK
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