On December 31, 2014 11:43:06 PM EST, "Murray S. Kucherawy" 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>OK, seriously, I hope I don't have to crack this open again.  Conflict
>review is slated for the 1/8 telechat, and a flurry of last minute
>edits
>might not sit well with the IESG.  We need to leave actual work, as
>much as
>at all possible, to the WG, and not to hacking on the ISE version.
>
>Diffs to -09 which will be in -10 within the next few days:
>http://blackops.org/~msk/dmarc/diff.html
>
>-MSK
>
>
>On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Scott Kitterman
><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> On December 29, 2014 2:32:27 PM EST, Dave Crocker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >On 12/29/2014 10:40 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> >TO:
>> >>> >
>> >DMARC evaluation can only complete and yield a "pass" result when
>one
>> >of the underlying authentication mechanisms passes for an aligned
>> >identifier.  If neither passes and one or both of them failed due to
>> >>> >a
>> >temporary error, the Receiver evaluating the message is also unable
>> >>> >to
>> >conclude that the DMARC mechanism had a permanent failure and
>thereby
>> >can apply the advertised DMARC policy.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >This looks good to me.
>> >> Shouldn't it be cannot apply the advertised DMARC policy?
>> >
>> >Actually, no, but I also was confused.  It took me some serious
>effort
>> >to decide that the current wording was correct.  And a spec should
>not
>> >require that sort of linguistic diligence, IMO.
>> >
>> >Looks like a small change can make your form correct...
>> >
>> >So I suggest:
>> >
>> >     DMARC evaluation can only yield a "pass" result after one
>> >of the underlying authentication mechanisms passes for an aligned
>> >identifier. If neither passes and one or both of them fails due to a
>> >temporary error, the Receiver evaluating the message is unable to
>> >conclude that the DMARC mechanism had a permanent failure; they
>> >therefore cannot (yet) apply the advertised DMARC policy.
>> >
>> >d/
>>
>> I think that's better. I'd prefer to leave out the parenthetical yet
>as I
>> think it raises ambiguity rather than reduces it.
>>
>> Scott K
>>
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Personally I prefer what you had for -09.  I think it's clearer, but I'm ok 
with either. 


Scott K

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