As a long time total mail system product(s) developer, at this point,
IMV, we have a marketing problem.
We did have technical solutions laid out with 3rd party authorization
concerns. However, it hasn't been "sold enough" and if even if you
do work it, you have to champion it. One can't write documents nor
work on ideas while still believing it won't work. If you (the
authors) don't believe it, no one else will -- the bottom line.
Just consider that DMARC has a problem that all the previous POLICY
FRAMEWORKS long had. So how could DMARC replaced ADSP as the "Super
ADSP" when ADSP was abandoned by the key DKIM people within the IETF?
It does the same thing, same problem? How was that possible?
Marketing.
DMARC did have the REPORTING part that we intentionally left out in
coming up with SSP/ADSP. The view was it would eventually could be
abused and most certainly it would be become a high overhead redundant
reporting feature -- can't be reporting forever.
Thats the one thing I believe I underestimated when I strongly
supported and implemented the previous DKIM policy ideas such as SSP
and ADSP and also my I-D DSAP (DKIM Signature Authorization Protocol)
where some of the initial MLM interfacing ideas were written down.
Overall, you got to have a solid protocol first that makes sense
independent of any mail component that touches mail. I believe we
had something with DKIM + POLICY but it requires you to change the the
MLM software or its frontend interface to follow the POLICY concept.
Until that happens, nothing is going to change.
--
HLS
On 3/20/2015 4:56 PM, J. Gomez wrote:
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:40 PM [GMT+1=VET], Douglas Otis wrote:
Dear DMARC WG,
Now that RFC7489 has been published, there remains several
unresolved problems this WG is charted to resolve, primarily--
1. Addressing the issues with indirect mail flows
Why is it better for DMARC to be adapted to indirect email flows, instead of
indirect email flows to be adapted to DMARC?
What does provide more value to end users at large: indirect email flows to be
kept old-style, or the extra notch of trustworthiness that DMARC alignment
provides?
How big is the volume of DMARC-problematic indirect email flows, compared to
the general volume of email which can readily benefit from DMARC?
Regards,
Regards,
J.Gomez
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