Hi, Doug,

> TPA-Label operates within its own sub-domain.  This
> sub-domain can be delegated or use DNAME.  
> How is the scaling issue really worse than the changes
> currently required for SPF?  In fact, SPF often entails more
> DNS transactions per use

When I talk about scale [1], it's not just a matter of doing DNS lookups. 
That's important, but it's not what I worry about because we can solve it by 
adding more hardware [2]. Instead, by "scale" I mean "management", that is, 
having humans manage the process, or needing humans to do something.

Getting someone to add anything to DNS doesn't work well [3] unless it is 
automated because the majority of people that I work with in the customer space 
don't feel comfortable managing DNS; it is rare that I encounter someone who 
does and these are people who are in charge of email infrastructure. This is 
the exact opposite of most people on this discussion list, many of which manage 
their own zones. For many large organizations, there is a slow change-review 
process. For medium and small businesses, they just want it to work and 
therefore don't change much in their DNS unless they are experts, of which 
there aren't that many in real life.

So to say "Oh, just set up a new DNS record and it will all work" is a major 
obstacle to overcome and is close to a non-starter. I like the idea of the 
DKIM/FS from John Levine because at least that can be done at the MTA level 
without any help from domain owners because it's the job of the MTA implementer 
to figure it out; it's a much smaller set of people who need to understand and 
can it make it work without domain owner awareness.

-- Terry

[1] I can't speak for everyone within Microsoft, or anyone within Google or 
Yahoo but I would imagine they have the same issues because they're both large 
companies.

[2] That's my solution for everything. It's a simplified explanation, but a 
good technical design and adding adequate hardware solves most of those 
problems... usually.

[3] By "work well" I mean have the majority of people doing it, not that it 
works technically.

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